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Why I left the Romans to Philemon denomination
You say so many times
'you know' as if I know what you know, but I don't. Your video was made more
than 5 years ago and it has 685 views at the moment I'm typing this and it got
24 likes.
You are CONFUSED because you have never studied the right information, like
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
You don't understand that THE Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is NOT the gospel of Paul, but the Gospel of the Lord JESUS Christ VIA Paul!
And we can find this Gospel in the epistles of Paul (Romans through Philemon) and NOWHERE else!
Yes, the WHOLE Bible is for us and we should read it through the perspective of Paul, OUR apostle.
If you believe Peter is your apostle too then you think you're BOTH a gentile and a Jew.
In this dispensation of God's UNDESERVED GRACE THE Gospel of our eternal salvation is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 for BOTH Jews and gentiles!
You are CONFUSED because you have never studied the right information, like
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
You don't understand that THE Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is NOT the gospel of Paul, but the Gospel of the Lord JESUS Christ VIA Paul!
And we can find this Gospel in the epistles of Paul (Romans through Philemon) and NOWHERE else!
Yes, the WHOLE Bible is for us and we should read it through the perspective of Paul, OUR apostle.
If you believe Peter is your apostle too then you think you're BOTH a gentile and a Jew.
In this dispensation of God's UNDESERVED GRACE THE Gospel of our eternal salvation is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 for BOTH Jews and gentiles!
There is no 'Romans
through Philemon movement'.
There ARE saved sinners who discovered the TRUTH, and JESUS happens to be the truth.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
There ARE saved sinners who discovered the TRUTH, and JESUS happens to be the truth.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
So blessed to find someone with a testimony to
counter the Robert Breakers out there. So pleased you got out of that horrible
and growing heresy. God bless you, brother!
Amazing Grace -> This channel doesn't
have any content
You're probably a Roman
Catholic troll who believes in grace through faith PLUS
works.
Yup... This group claim that Matthew to John
gospel is for Jews 
️️️
️️️ You read James, they tell you it’s
written for Jews!!!!!
They don’t want to talk about all the
message from all the parables too. It’s a Cult
mindset.
It's a beautiful thing to discover the amazing
love of God for us all over scriptures. He did gave us eternal life through
Jesus Christ for who wants it. The door is open for anyone to get through and
that door is Jesus Christ and no works and no law keeping are necessary apart
from faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross. God bless you brother
don't give up and stand for the Gospel and eternal salvation takes a lot to
admit when you are wrong in doctrine and many false teachers out there on u tube
bringing people into bondage that would never concede that they are wrong
because they like the praise of men not the truth of the
Gospel.
Pauline " Gospel" followers fail to
realize that Philip shared the Gospel with the Ethiopian and Peter was sent to
the house of Cornelius ,after God gave him the vision of " all things ,given of
God,are clean.
If all we focus on,as the church,is Paul,we miss the beauty and Truth of the whole of God's Word and why we were grafted in in the first place.
During the Tribulation, people will still need to put their faith in Jesus,to be saved.
The Jews will follow the law,as they do now,until God opens their blind eyes. And they will also need to believe the Gospel of salvation through Jesus.
If all we focus on,as the church,is Paul,we miss the beauty and Truth of the whole of God's Word and why we were grafted in in the first place.
During the Tribulation, people will still need to put their faith in Jesus,to be saved.
The Jews will follow the law,as they do now,until God opens their blind eyes. And they will also need to believe the Gospel of salvation through Jesus.
Very
true brother. This is something im aware of yet still
being cleansed from the hyperdividing of scripture.
Amen
brother.) It always has been and always will be Jesus Christ of Nazareth.) God
bless you and your family mightily. FAITH ALWAYS MATTERED. 
So
you believe that mixing the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel and the Gospel of
Grace by the Lord JESUS THROUGH Paul is good?
Many believers with a Christian-religious CHURCH background believe that and I don't have such a background because I NEVER went to 'church' and I was an atheist!
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
Many believers with a Christian-religious CHURCH background believe that and I don't have such a background because I NEVER went to 'church' and I was an atheist!
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
The entire book of
Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy.
It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all
of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew,
Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.
The dispensation of
grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle
Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between
the two dispensations.
Source: The Seven
Churches of Revelation
Matthew McGee
Matthew McGee
So
the whole Bible is for us?
Then CHOP OFF YOUR HAND and PLUCK OUT YOUR EYES the next time they make you SIN, because that's what JESUS told the JEWS!
You might as well become a ROMAN CATHOLIC (again)!
Then CHOP OFF YOUR HAND and PLUCK OUT YOUR EYES the next time they make you SIN, because that's what JESUS told the JEWS!
You might as well become a ROMAN CATHOLIC (again)!
Satan totally agrees
with
you!
Hans S If you don't believe the whole Bible is the
truth then stop reading it. You can't shop up the Bible to make it make
sense.
Keyon March, SUGGESTING I don't believe the entire Bible is the
TRUTH, is what Satan would do.
It's not about 'chopping up the Bible' but about DISCERNING what is meant for the members of the Body of Christ and what is meant for God's chosen people, the Jews.
I bet you've never read this article and if you love the TRUTH=JESUS then you want to read it:
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
It's not about 'chopping up the Bible' but about DISCERNING what is meant for the members of the Body of Christ and what is meant for God's chosen people, the Jews.
I bet you've never read this article and if you love the TRUTH=JESUS then you want to read it:
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
And you can't deny the
word DISPENSATION is in the Bible:
1 Corinthians 9:17 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
For if I do it willingly, I have a reward, but if I do it against my will, notwithstanding the dispensation is committed unto me.
1 Corinthians 9:17 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
For if I do it willingly, I have a reward, but if I do it against my will, notwithstanding the dispensation is committed unto me.
Ephesians 1:10 1599
Geneva Bible (GNV)
That in the dispensation of the fullness of the times, he might gather together in one all things, both which are in heaven, and which are in earth, even in Christ:
That in the dispensation of the fullness of the times, he might gather together in one all things, both which are in heaven, and which are in earth, even in Christ:
Ephesians 3:2 1599
Geneva Bible (GNV)
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward,
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward,
Colossians 1:25 1599
Geneva Bible (GNV)
Whereof I am a minister, according to the dispensation of God, which is given me unto youward, to fulfill the word of God
Whereof I am a minister, according to the dispensation of God, which is given me unto youward, to fulfill the word of God
What It Means 'To
Divide the Scriptures Aright' https://www.av-1611.com/What_It_Means_To_Rightly_Divide_the_Scriptures.htm
There is no 'Romans to
Philemon denomination': that's what SATAN asserts!
So Satan is delighted by your decision.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
So Satan is delighted by your decision.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
Hans S If you want to believe
there are two gospels, then that's your choice. Jesus Christ is the gospel so if
there was two gospels, then there are two Christ but it's not. The Jews was
never saved by the law but grace through faith just like the
Gentiles.
Keyon March, OF COURSE
it's ALWAYS by GRACE through FAITH that God-the Lord JESUS (JESUS means 'I AM
SALVATION') SAVES both JEWS and non-JEWS (Gentiles) because NOBODY DESERVES to
be saved, and NOBODY can EARN God's GIFT of GRACE, but this was not YET revealed
in the Old Testament and not even in the New Testament until JESUS Christ
revealed it to Paul.
Do you really think it was a coincidence that it was revealed to Paul, who used to be a PERSECUTOR of his fellow Jews who had become believers in YESHUA-JESUS?
OF COURSE the Body of Christ didn't start with Paul but with JESUS Christ, hence it's called the Body of CHRIST (JESUS), but this MYSTERY wasn't revealed until JESUS (not through me, or by Robert Breaker nor through someone else) revealed it to Paul who used to be Saul.
If you deny this then you're telling JESUS that He's an IDIOT!
I'm not believing in an IDIOT but in God, manifested in the flesh=JESUS Christ and there's someone else who is the true IDIOT and that's ADVERSARY=SATAN!
He wants you to believe in the WRONG GOSPEL, which will be the RIGHT GOSPEL after the Pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture.
If you don't believe in the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture then you've never understood what Paul revealed to the members of the Body of Christ ON BEHALF OF JESUS CHRIST, who happens to be GOD ALMIGHTY.
Do you really think it was a coincidence that it was revealed to Paul, who used to be a PERSECUTOR of his fellow Jews who had become believers in YESHUA-JESUS?
OF COURSE the Body of Christ didn't start with Paul but with JESUS Christ, hence it's called the Body of CHRIST (JESUS), but this MYSTERY wasn't revealed until JESUS (not through me, or by Robert Breaker nor through someone else) revealed it to Paul who used to be Saul.
If you deny this then you're telling JESUS that He's an IDIOT!
I'm not believing in an IDIOT but in God, manifested in the flesh=JESUS Christ and there's someone else who is the true IDIOT and that's ADVERSARY=SATAN!
He wants you to believe in the WRONG GOSPEL, which will be the RIGHT GOSPEL after the Pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture.
If you don't believe in the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture then you've never understood what Paul revealed to the members of the Body of Christ ON BEHALF OF JESUS CHRIST, who happens to be GOD ALMIGHTY.
Hans S I know but it is in the
Old Testament scriptures. How you think Paul saved the Jews and the Gentiles?
Using the Old Testament scriptures because that's all they
had.
Keyon March
Paul saved absolutely NO ONE!
ONLY JESUS (I AM SALVATION) SAVES!
But JESUS gave Paul NEW information which was NEVER revealed before to anybody else.
If you deny this then you might as well throw you Bible in the trash can or burn it, because I'm an ex-atheist and I can't stand it when people (mostly with a 'church' background) attack God's revelations to Paul.
Why?
Because the gospel of Grace through Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, BY JESUS CHRIST, is the ONLY way to salvation in this DISPENSATION of GRACE.
Satan HATES this gospel because it's 'too simple' and 'too easy to believe':
The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!
Paul saved absolutely NO ONE!
ONLY JESUS (I AM SALVATION) SAVES!
But JESUS gave Paul NEW information which was NEVER revealed before to anybody else.
If you deny this then you might as well throw you Bible in the trash can or burn it, because I'm an ex-atheist and I can't stand it when people (mostly with a 'church' background) attack God's revelations to Paul.
Why?
Because the gospel of Grace through Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, BY JESUS CHRIST, is the ONLY way to salvation in this DISPENSATION of GRACE.
Satan HATES this gospel because it's 'too simple' and 'too easy to believe':
The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
1 Moreover brethren, I
declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which ye have also
received, and wherein ye continue,
2 And whereby ye ARE
saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye
have believed in vain.
3 For first of all, I
delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins,
according to the Scriptures,
4 And that he was
buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the
Scriptures
^through the shed BLOOD
of JESUS!
Ephesians 2:8-9 1599
Geneva Bible (GNV)
8 For by grace are ye
saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of
God,
9 Not of works, lest
any man should boast himself.
Ephesians 1:13 1599
Geneva Bible (GNV)
13 In whom also ye have
trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your
salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy
Spirit of promise
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE
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(I wanted to edit this
comment and delete the last two links but YouTube didn't allow
it)
Hans S I see the problem is that
if I don't believe in Romans to Philemon denomination doctrine that means I'm
not saved right? I believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh and suffered for
us and died for our sins and he was buried and rose again on the third day
according to the scriptures and I believe that by faith alone. The Old Testament
scriptures is the blueprint to the New Testament scriptures and it unlocks the
Old Testament scriptures. Don't believe me read the whole book of
Hebrews.
@Keyon
March No it means you don't
understand what the Gospel of Grace is and there is no "Romans to Philemon
denomination doctrine". You invented that yourself.
"Romans through Philemon" simply means that people who are saved by the Gospel of the Lord JESUS Christ VIA Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, have learned that Paul is directly talking to us GENTILES because he's the only apostle of the gentiles.
In the book of Hebrews Paul was addressing HEBREWS.
Are you a HEBREW?
"Romans through Philemon" simply means that a saved sinner reads the ENTIRE Bible through this perspective.
But most believers in the Lord JESUS MIX what is meant for ISRAEL with what is meant for the GENTILES.
Why?
Because they are PROGRAMMED to do so due to CENTURIES of wrong teachings by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, the true church of Satan.
I read the ENTIRE Bible through the perspective of MY apostle Paul written in Romans through Philemon.
"Romans through Philemon" simply means that people who are saved by the Gospel of the Lord JESUS Christ VIA Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, have learned that Paul is directly talking to us GENTILES because he's the only apostle of the gentiles.
In the book of Hebrews Paul was addressing HEBREWS.
Are you a HEBREW?
"Romans through Philemon" simply means that a saved sinner reads the ENTIRE Bible through this perspective.
But most believers in the Lord JESUS MIX what is meant for ISRAEL with what is meant for the GENTILES.
Why?
Because they are PROGRAMMED to do so due to CENTURIES of wrong teachings by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, the true church of Satan.
I read the ENTIRE Bible through the perspective of MY apostle Paul written in Romans through Philemon.
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of
this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the
Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes
it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews
who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct
application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of
Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to
be resumed in the future tribulation.
The entire book of Revelation, including
chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally
aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were
apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke,
John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.
The dispensation of grace in which we
now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to
the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two
dispensations.
Source: The Seven Churches of
Revelation
Matthew McGee
Matthew McGee
They
looked forward to the cross and we look back but its the Same Lord of all who
Believe on Him,thats the way ive understand it,,please correct me if im wrong ,i
do realize that all the word of God was Written for us to understand but all
wasnt to us,correct?
and yea ive heard that from one sermon that its Rom,,thru philemon thingy,,and pauls our only apostle and quit watching after like 10 minutes,,Still learning myself Bro and willing by all means to be corrected ,,i wanna be honestly,,God Bless ya!!!
and yea ive heard that from one sermon that its Rom,,thru philemon thingy,,and pauls our only apostle and quit watching after like 10 minutes,,Still learning myself Bro and willing by all means to be corrected ,,i wanna be honestly,,God Bless ya!!!
Faith Alone In Christ
Alone (is that the name your mother gave you at birth?)
Read: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
Read: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
Merle Hanna Thanks and yeah me
too.
'Romans through Philemon is not a 'movement' and when will you stop
Lying about who you are?
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
The entire book of
Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy.
It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all
of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew,
Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.
The dispensation of
grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle
Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between
the two dispensations.
Source: The Seven
Churches of
Revelation
The scripture's are alive I am always learning
something new.... Amen Believe on Jesus Christ and Live... Grace and
Peace
JustAMan400 Thanks.
My experience with
the subject of rightly dividing/wrongly dividing, "chopping up" the word ect. is
that there are many extremes with many variables, which makes this a very
complicated study.
Many people including myself believe that Peter's preaching in Acts 2 is not the gospel message that Paul preached, and yet at the same time I believe Acts 2 is the beginning of the church. That is an anomaly! You did well in explaining what you don't believe, yet provided no details to understand why. What don't you believe in the timeline chart and why? What evidence persuaded you to make a change? I was hoping you would explain! There are many people who are Rom-Phil who differ in many areas such as ordinances like communion and water baptism. My point is nothing about this subject "rightly dividing" fits into nice neat boxes here.
Many people including myself believe that Peter's preaching in Acts 2 is not the gospel message that Paul preached, and yet at the same time I believe Acts 2 is the beginning of the church. That is an anomaly! You did well in explaining what you don't believe, yet provided no details to understand why. What don't you believe in the timeline chart and why? What evidence persuaded you to make a change? I was hoping you would explain! There are many people who are Rom-Phil who differ in many areas such as ordinances like communion and water baptism. My point is nothing about this subject "rightly dividing" fits into nice neat boxes here.
Just a few of the subjects relating to
this topic:
1. When did the church begin?
2. What does the word dispensation mean?
3. Was there 2 different gospel messages? If not, then what is the arugument made by people who believe this?
4. What in the Books of Acts reveals the transition/ change from the OT the NT?
5. To whom was gods plan revealed/hidden? How and why was it revealed by god?
6. To whom where specific Books in the Bible written to and for what purpose and how is it applied? (Ex: How does book of Hebrews apply to us today if it was written to a specific group of people, for a specific purpose in time)
7. How do we understand the differences in how God dealt with Jews/Gentiles at specific times in History
8. What does prophecy reveal will happen in the future and why? (Ex. Reinstated sacrifices in Temple during Millenum?)
9. What does Matthew 15:24 mean and what are the implications?..." But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"
2. What does the word dispensation mean?
3. Was there 2 different gospel messages? If not, then what is the arugument made by people who believe this?
4. What in the Books of Acts reveals the transition/ change from the OT the NT?
5. To whom was gods plan revealed/hidden? How and why was it revealed by god?
6. To whom where specific Books in the Bible written to and for what purpose and how is it applied? (Ex: How does book of Hebrews apply to us today if it was written to a specific group of people, for a specific purpose in time)
7. How do we understand the differences in how God dealt with Jews/Gentiles at specific times in History
8. What does prophecy reveal will happen in the future and why? (Ex. Reinstated sacrifices in Temple during Millenum?)
9. What does Matthew 15:24 mean and what are the implications?..." But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"
I am not saying I think you should have
all the answers to these, but rather I am trying to Illustrate that this subject
goes far beyond not agreeing with a timeline chart. Thanks for the vid
Brother!
unitewithchrist I know what you mean and yeah
should explain more about what I was talking about but I just wanted to explain
why I left and never got into the details of the matter which I will in future
videos. Acts 2 is a good place to start and I will to make notes on this topic.
Thanks brother, I was just freestyleing it really and just started to talk about
it. But I will get in depths of it but there's more people can explain it better
than I can about act
2.
10-4...I am extremely interested in this
subject(s) as I too have had many different conversations with other believers
on here about it all. I have changed my views over the years too, but am still
perplexed by many issues....
unitewithchrist That's why we
learn.
unitewithchrist
Your comment is accurate bro and those
questions are good to disscuss. I am in the midst of talking personally to a few
brothers who are " mid acts dispensational " ....
The one thing I know is that they do teach a super clear gospel and also understand the religious fumes that have choked many in the
" local churches " today... There are other things they seem right on but many things I question and will test with scripture.
The one thing I know is that they do teach a super clear gospel and also understand the religious fumes that have choked many in the
" local churches " today... There are other things they seem right on but many things I question and will test with scripture.
Amen! What I see a lot is dispensational teachers
like Robert Breaker or Peter Ruckman teach that salvation in OT was by faith AND
works. The temptation is for people to outright reject good dispensational
differences because of people who teach this heresy and lie....This may not
directly involve the Rom-phil or the mid- acts crowd, but I use this as an
illustration to show how easy it is to throw the baby our with the bathwater
when teachers get some doctrine right, but get some major doctrine
wrong...
unitewithchrist
Amen bro, the brothers and teachers I've
taken the time to listen to who " rightly divide" teach that salvation was
ALWAYS by faith alone...different dispensations are clear in scripture, and the
dispensation we are in currently is truly unique. It is also clear that a lot of
scripture is for our learning and not specifically for our obedience.
I do also notice how the gospel was communicated( verbally) in a different way, in different times. Like John the Baptis for example saying "repent and be baptized for the remission of sins"..we don't say that today because if we did we would be preaching a gospel without mentioning the cross, which is impossible to do in this age. I still believe the church started in acts 2 also as you stated...Like I said tho, there are things that " right divition" teachers teach that I need more clarification on because there are things I definitely question.
I do also notice how the gospel was communicated( verbally) in a different way, in different times. Like John the Baptis for example saying "repent and be baptized for the remission of sins"..we don't say that today because if we did we would be preaching a gospel without mentioning the cross, which is impossible to do in this age. I still believe the church started in acts 2 also as you stated...Like I said tho, there are things that " right divition" teachers teach that I need more clarification on because there are things I definitely question.
I do
not think the church started in Acts 2. Reason is if you look at scripture. You
understand there is more than 1 church. Yes, Jesus Christ is the center of all
scripture, but Peter was called to do something different from Paul. Peter was
one of the 12 apostles that walked with Jesus Christ during his earthly
ministry. Which was to reveal he was the Son of God to Israel and that the
Kingdom was at hand, but they couldn't see it. Which if you also look, John 3:16
for example does not teach the death burial and resurrection for salvation.
Yes, everybody in all dispensations have
been saved by God's grace, but the terms were different. People say everybody is
saved the same way, clearly not if you look throughout the Old Testament where
it shows God expects Israel to 'keep my commandments' or they were required to
make blood sacrifices and even if you were a 'righteous man' and died in your
sins, you were remembered not. Example Ezekiel 18:24 "But when the righteous
turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth
according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All
his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that
he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." I
just ask people search the scriptures on these manners, because the message was
different. Then people will go to MMLJ to prove the disciples didn't understand
what Jesus Christ meant that he must be given to wicked men and slain, but it
doesn't change that his death, burial, and resurrection was prophesied in
Isaiah.
While the death, burial, and
resurrection was prophesied, it wasn't considered a good thing(it wasn't being
preached as the gospel we know today). Peter is not preaching it as a good thing
which is how you get the context of Acts 2:38. He is told by Jesus Christ
himself, that he is to go to all the world, but to the lost sheep of the house
of Israel first(so he doesn't go to throughout the world until all of Israel
comes to the realization of who Jesus Christ is/was). Which was not accomplished
at this time yet. God gives Israel a 1 year extension to repent and believe that
he was the Son of God(realizing that he was their Messiah), which you can find
this in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Paul who was Saul, was not one of the 12
apostles, he did not physically walk with Jesus Christ like the 12 apostles had,
he was revealed something through revelation by Jesus Christ, when Jesus Christ
was already risen and was glorified. And in Galatians you can see, that none of
the 12 added anything to him. You can only find grace through faith apart from
works, death burial resurrection in Paul's epistles.
You can only find the Body of Christ in
Paul's epistles. I do have to disagree with those who do believe that its always
been simply grace through faith alone in all dispensations. Because its not
accurate when you look at scripture, like just the one I presented as just 1
example that shows it hasn't always been that way. Or those during the Time of
Jacob's Trouble who will have to contend with the mark of the beast. For
example, if you look at baptism, there has been more 1 baptism, but you will
only see that if you let scripture explain itself and not attempt to interpret
more than what its already saying. I know I'll be called a hyper-D, which yes
guys like Robert Breaker and Peter Ruckman do a bad job explaining these things
doesn't change that these things are true. People say its 'chopping the Bible',
there certainly are bad teachers, but I do find it a bit insulting when people
make a broad brush to paint anybody as 'hyper-D' and refuse to listen at all
before making judgment. Not all are like the 2 teachers you mentioned.
Maybe not you specifically, but people
are taking those 2 and making it sound like the whole lot are like that or you
are using them as your basis when examining others which makes talking unfair.
Yes, 2 Timothy 3:16 is in the Bible, but you are ignoring 2 Timothy 2:15 when it
does say how to study the Bible. People will keep referring to Hebrews 13:8 as
if this changes that God can and has dealt with man differently throughout
scripture. For example, you haven't physically talked with Jesus Christ face to
face, the same way the 12 apostles did. But it did happen that way. People can
keep throwing the accusation "its the whole Bible", but it doesn't negate that 2
Timothy 2:15 is in the Bible also and its supposed to be studied that way.
Yes, all scripture is profitable for
correction and for doctrine, but to not be able to see the distinctions either
is wrong. And the reason its wrong is because when you do blend the Bible
together you aren't able to give a clear gospel that people do get saved by
today. You cause more confusion when you don't make the distinctions clear.
People say its always been 'by faith alone', but scripture does show
differently. And you can't change that unless you see the Bible making no
distinctions. For example, a lot of people do confuse the Body of Christ for
Israel, when they aren't the same either. And understanding that there was a
different program for Israel from the Body of Christ. You aren't under the New
Covenant or the Old Covenant. The promises made to Israel are promises
specifically to Israel and not the Body of Christ, but you won't get that if you
mix up the two. Which is how you do get replacement theology. Israel is promised
physical land and safety from the world and a King, but they haven't received
that yet. That is their good news(gospel) if you look at the scripture. Which
shows the 'promise' is not just 'faith', it is physical land, a kingdom, a King,
but they have not received all these
things.
@unitewithchrist
"I believe Acts 2 is the beginning of the church"
Only a 'church person' can come up with something like this.
Acts 2 is about ISRAEL and NOT about THE BODY OF CHRIST which you call 'the church'.
I'm a former atheist who NEVER went to 'church' and church goers are very good at making sure that many people DON'T GET SAVED.
I don't say they do it on purpose but they have NEVER learned what the RIGHT GOSPEL is, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
We read this in the EPISTLES of PAUL to (predominantly) the GENTILES because Paul was the ONLY apostle of the gentiles.
When he wrote Hebrews he addressed that to FELLOW HEBREWS and NOT to gentiles.
I read that book and the ENTIRE BIBLE through the perspective of Paul, written in Romans through Philemon.
Why?
Because Paul was appointed by THE GOD-LORD JESUS CHRIST as MY apostle and NOT Peter and the other apostles!
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
"I believe Acts 2 is the beginning of the church"
Only a 'church person' can come up with something like this.
Acts 2 is about ISRAEL and NOT about THE BODY OF CHRIST which you call 'the church'.
I'm a former atheist who NEVER went to 'church' and church goers are very good at making sure that many people DON'T GET SAVED.
I don't say they do it on purpose but they have NEVER learned what the RIGHT GOSPEL is, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
We read this in the EPISTLES of PAUL to (predominantly) the GENTILES because Paul was the ONLY apostle of the gentiles.
When he wrote Hebrews he addressed that to FELLOW HEBREWS and NOT to gentiles.
I read that book and the ENTIRE BIBLE through the perspective of Paul, written in Romans through Philemon.
Why?
Because Paul was appointed by THE GOD-LORD JESUS CHRIST as MY apostle and NOT Peter and the other apostles!
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
The entire book of
Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy.
It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all
of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew,
Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.
The dispensation of
grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle
Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between
the two dispensations.
Source: The Seven
Churches of
Revelation
Amen
bro! Salvation has never changed, it always been given freely as a gift,
through faith by God's grace ! For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that
not of yourselves: it is the gift of God Not of works, lest any man should
boast.: Ephesians 2:8 - 9 God bless you bro...
Btw, is it alright if I mirror this?
Btw, is it alright if I mirror this?
Wayne Crook Go right on ahead, I didn't prepare to
do a video like this but it had to done. Thanks brother.
Not sure what happened there I thought I had
replied earlier ..But thanks bro...:o)
Wayne Crook You did 
Satan totally agrees
with you if you assert this was revealed in the Old Testament and in the four
gospels, BEFORE it was revealed by JESUS to His special Apostle
Paul.
Ephesians 2:8-9 is a revelation by JESUS through Paul!
Ephesians 2:8-9 is a revelation by JESUS through Paul!
You're right brother Keyon, the grace of God has
always operated in the earth. Everything God does concerning the heaven and the
earth is by his grace. But God's grace being always in the earth realm, is not
the same thing as "the dispensation of grace."... The dispensation of grace is a
period of time when God is dealing with man according to a Revelation of
doctrine that is a mystery to all the rest of Scripture. Give a look at Les
Feldick ministries entitled "through the Bible with Les" every weekday on
Comcast cable. He also has an Internet website by the same name. If you are
willing to learn about this current "mystery dispensation of the grace of God."
Ephesians 3:2.
Dwain Huff No thanks, I already have people that I
watch on YouTube for Bible study but thanks.
thanks. all the lefty uniters turned their backs
on me when i embraced the rightly dividers. but i wont turn my back on them or
the rightly dividers or the children of israel. neither should
you.
dehallmo's Thunderhaus I didn't say I did. Im just
explaining why I left the Romans to Philemon denomination. I'm not bashing them
but maybe they will understand that the Bible doesn't need to be chopped
up.
sho nuff! now lets go chase phony jesus satan out
who suffered in hell for sin. hes down below me.
Keyon March, I don't read in my Bible
about an Apostle called 'Keyon March', but I do read in my Bible about a man who
used to be called Saul and who became our Apostle Paul and who taught us about
DISPENSATIONS: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=dispensation&qs_version=GNV
If you deny the significance of this important happening then you deny why JESUS chose to do so.
If you deny the significance of this important happening then you deny why JESUS chose to do so.
I call people who MIX the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel with the Gospel of Grace PSEUDO-CATHOLICS
NTEB is for pseudo-Catholics
LEARN SOMETHING: doctrine.org
We all need to be saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So be SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible every day and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
I Met A Man While Out Having Lunch Today Who Grabbed My Hand And Pleaded With Me To Drop My King James Only Position On The Bible
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey Grider: "The last thing I said to him was that I was saved reading John 3:16 in a King James Bible on March 14th, 1991, and that by God’s grace I haven’t move an inch from that position in 32 years."
DeleteIs John 3:16 Christian?
DeleteThe MASONIC KJV changed LOVE in 1 Cor. 13:13 into 'CHARITY':
Delete1 Corinthians 13:13
1599 Geneva Bible (the true reformation Bible)
13 And now abideth faith, hope and love, even these three: but the chiefest of these is love.
1 Korinther 13:13
Luther Bibel 1545 (the German reformation Bible)
13 Nun aber bleibt Glaube, Hoffnung, Liebe, diese drei; aber die Liebe ist die größte unter ihnen.
Translation: But now faith, hope, love remain, these three; but love is the greatest among them.
1 Korinthe 13 Dutch States Translation (the Dutch reformation Bible)
13 En nu blijft geloof, hoop en liefde, deze drie; doch de meeste van deze is de liefde.
Translation: And now abideth faith, hope, and love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 Corinthians 13:13
King James Version (the bible of the Anglican church)
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
The MASONIC KJV changed 'PAIN' in Matthew 25:46 into 'PUNISHMENT'
DeleteMatthaeus 25:46 Luther Bibel 1545
46 Und sie werden in die ewige Pein gehen, aber die Gerechten in das ewige Leben.
Translation:
And they will go in the eternal pain, but the righteous in the eternal life.
Matthew 25:46 in the Dutch States Translation:
46 En dezen zullen gaan in de eeuwige pijn; maar de rechtvaardigen in het eeuwige leven.
Translation:
And these will go in the eternal pain; but the righteous in the eternal life.
Matthew 25:46 1599 Geneva Bible
46 And these shall go into everlasting pain, and the righteous into life eternal.
And then the KJV changed PAIN into PUNISHMENT which is NOT the same:
Matthew 25:46 King James Version
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
People who believe in Annihilationism love this verse in the KJV because ANNIHILATION, which is UNBIBLICAL, is also a PUNISHMENT.
But they HATE the word PAIN!
Because the word PAIN can ONLY mean ONE thing: ETERNAL TORMENT.
So this says a LOT about KJV-onlyists like Geoffrey Grider
DeleteRead the true reformation Bible, made by radical FORMER Catholics.... You can ignore the footnotes, because that's not the Word of God
ReplyDeleteBut sometimes the footnotes are VERY helpful like in this example:
DeleteGenesis 6:4
1599 Geneva Bible
4 There were [a]giants in the earth in those days: yea, and after that the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they had borne them children, these were mighty men, which in old time were men of [b]renown.
Read full chapter
Footnotes
[a] Genesis 6:4 Or, tyrants.
[b] Genesis 6:4 Which usurped authority over others, and did degenerate from that simplicity, wherein their fathers lived.
I believe TYRANTS is better!
Fallen angels did NOT have sex with earthly women, generating the so called 'giants' because (fallen) angels were not made to procreate, so they don't have genitals!
God does NOT allow Satan to produce humans that CANNOT be saved!
If God would have allowed that then He would have been just as EVIL as the devil!
God gave ALL humans a FREE WILL so they can CHOOSE between Him and Satan!
The MASONIC KJV SUGGESTS that fallen angels generated the 'giants' of Genesis 6
ReplyDeleteGenesis 6:1-3 1599 Geneva Bible
1 So when men began to be multiplied upon the earth, and there were daughters born unto them,
2 Then the *sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all that they liked.
3 Therefore the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, because he is but flesh, and his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
*Geneva Bible footnote: Genesis 6:2 The children of the godly, which began to degenerate.
The masonic KJV changed it into this:
Genesis 6:1-3 King James Version 1611
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Read the Bible that was made in Geneva by true reformers and not the KJV that was made on orders of the Masonic King James who hated the then POPULAR Geneva Bible!
Why do so many believers in JESUS MIX the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel with our Grace Gospel?
ReplyDeleteBecause if they divide the word of truth ARIGHT they aren't POPULAR anymore...
Delete2 Timothy 2:15
1599 Geneva Bible
15 Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth aright.
So they are rather focused on PEOPLE than on THE WORD OF GOD = JESUS!
DeleteThat's why the man of the video above said so many times 'you know'.....
DeleteRead what the Pseudo-Catholic Geoffrey Grider says about fellow believers in the Lord JESUS who believe THE BODY OF CHRIST started by JESUS THROUGH Paul: Paul was given the job of revealing the mystery of the body of Christ, but it did not start with him as you can obviously see. The hyper-dispensationalists get it wrong, as they usually do, because they don’t understand what the ‘rightly dividing’ of 2 Timothy 2:15 actually is. True biblical rightly dividing is not a hammer to smash things with in large pieces, as evidenced in the ‘Romans to Philemon!!’ battle cry of the hypers. No, rightly dividing is done on a verse-by-verse-basis anywhere in the Bible, comparing what you read, in the context that you find it, to what God has written through the apostle Paul.
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey Grider LIES when he says "Paul himself tells you in Romans 16:7 that there were many people in the body of Christ before he was"
DeleteWhat does the Bible say?
Romans 16:7
1599 Geneva Bible
7 Salute Andronicus and Junia my cousins and fellow prisoners, which are notable among the Apostles, and were in Christ before me.
Paul said 'in Christ' and NOT 'in the body of Christ' as Geoffrey Grider asserts.
Also the KJV says 'in Christ' and NOT 'in the body of Christ':
DeleteRomans 16:7
King James Version
7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
People like Geoffrey Grider PERSECUTE fellow believers in JESUS who rightly divide the word of truth.
DeleteWhat is his motive?
Well in his case it has a lot to do with MONEY!
Suppose he would tell the TRUTH and agree WITH the LORD JESUS and Paul that the Body of Christ DID NOT EXIST before the Lord JESUS saved Paul, he would LOSE a lot of people who wouldn't give him MONEY anymore.
And this also applies to other false teachings he's promoting like that 'fallen angels had sex with earthly women in Genesis 6 who generated the so called 'giants'
Of course also this article, full of LIES contains this call: "Your Generous Donations Make These Live King James Radio Bible Studies Possible!"
GIVE ME MONEY!
And Geofrey Grider still believes we live on a 'globe' and he mocks fellow believers in the Lord JESUS who KNOW the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a DOME shaped FIRMAMENT...
People like Geoffrey Grider seem to be anti-Catholic church, but in fact he's still promoting the lies of this true church of Satan, and he proclaims more nonsense.
DeleteHe seemed to agree that 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is THE Gospel but then he claims he got saved by John 3:16...and because he read that in a KJV which belonged to his father, he believes the KJV is the ONLY and BEST bible in the world....
So too bad for all the other people on earth who don't speak English...
DeleteAnd he doesn't want to know that King James was MASON!
All high degree Masons serve the VATICAN
Back to the 'news' generated by Satan.....
Delete@Living In Grace So what anonymous?
ReplyDeleteThe Lord JESUS Christ started the BODY OF CHRIST, which you call 'the church', VIA Paul.
The BODY of CHRIST did NOT exist before the Lord JESUS Christ saved Saul.
How many people were raptured before the Flood?
ONE: Enoch!
People who MIX the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel and the Gospel of Grace are NOT saved!
I'm a former ATHEIST and I never allow CHURCH PEOPLE to call me a "hyper dispensationalist'
Let the MOMENT of the rapture decide who is right and who is wrong.
And the rapture MUST happen or else the rest of the prophetic word can't be fulfilled because that is about ISRAEL again.
Are you SAVED?
We all need to be saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So be SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible every day and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
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Living In Grace
4 hours ago (edited)
@Hans S Sorry, you can wrongly think Paul started the church, that he and Peter preached different gospel all of which is wrong. You can even go so far as to think the blood of sinners being martyred can pay one's way to heaven like so many hyper and ultra dispensation ppl do, and miss out on all the truths in the bible from Matthew to Revelation of you choose, but that isn't me nor many saints who rightly divide the word taking in the whole counsel of God .
That's your choice for sure.
So many have been richly blessed leaving the hyper D movement which thankfully is such a minority within the body.
ReplyDelete@John Threethirty When I discovered this in 2015 everything changed!
I also used to mix Israel's kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel OUT OF IGNORANCE because nobody taught me the truth before that.
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Hans S
2 weeks ago (edited)
There is no 'Romans through Philemon movement'.
There ARE saved sinners who discovered the TRUTH, and JESUS happens to be the truth.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
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John Threethirty
8 hours ago
Amen Hans
DeleteThere is no 'Romans through Philemon movement'.
There ARE saved sinners who discovered the TRUTH, and JESUS happens to be the truth.
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
(look it up)
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John Threethirty
2 days ago
Amen Hans
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Hans S
2 days ago
@John Threethirty When I discovered this in 2015 everything changed!
I also used to mix Israel's kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel OUT OF IGNORANCE because nobody taught me the truth before that.
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John Threethirty
1 day ago (edited)
@Hans S wow! And YOU actually helped me to see the light AND the truth! Thanks Buddy!
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Hans S
18 hours ago
@John Threethirty Pass it on to others, sister, and then they will thank YOU for helping them to see the light and the truth.
Most of all they will thank our Lord JESUS!
So I thank Him that I could be of service to you.
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John 3:30
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@Hans S praise God !
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John Threethirty
5 hours ago (edited)
@Hans S I have passed it on to a-lot of people already , like wild flower! I am excited to know the truth, I get up early every morning and study God's word and have my study with Robert Breaker, Fantastic teacher! God has blessed us brother!
Thank you Jesus. 2 Timothy 2:15 —
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Hans S
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@John Threethirty Great and Amen, sister!
In the version of the older Geneva bible:
2 Timothy 2:15
1599 Geneva Bible
15 Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth aright.
Delete@John Threethirty Me too! 😃
Hans S
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@John Threethirty It was the first 'American' protestant Bible in English!
The Holy Bible – Geneva Edition
1st Printing, 1st Edition in 1560
Given back to the people so all may understand
The Geneva Bible was first printed in Geneva, Switzerland, by refugees from England, fleeing the persecution of Protestants by Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary.
Many copies were smuggled back into England at great personal risk. In later years, when Protestant-friendly Queen Elizabeth took the throne, printing of the Geneva Bible moved back to England. The Geneva Bible was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, and other Reformers. It is the version that William Shakespeare quotes from hundreds of times in his plays, and the first English Bible to offer plain roman-style type in some of its early printings.
The Geneva Bible was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the
Mayflower… it is the Bible upon which early America and its government was founded (certainly not the King’s of England’s Bible!) The Geneva Bible was also the first English Bible to break the chapters of scripture into numbered verses, and it was the first true “Study Bible” offering extensive commentary notes in the margins. It was so accurate and popular, that a half-century later, when the King James Bible came out… it retained more than 90% of the exact wording of the Geneva Bible.
The Geneva Bible was the “Bible of the Protestant Reformation”, and the Bible of the Puritans and Pilgrims. It was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower. The Geneva Bible is the Bible upon which America was founded. You can imagine, most early American colonists, who were fleeing the religious oppression of the Anglican Church (Church of England), wanted nothing to do with the King James Bible of the Anglican Church!
Textually, the Geneva Bible offered a number of radical never-before-seen changes: It was the first Bible in English to add numbered verses to each chapter of scripture. Also, the Geneva was the first Bible to introduce easier-to-read “Roman Style Typeface” rather than the “Gothic Blackletter Style Typeface” which had been used exclusively in earlier Bibles. Another curious innovation; the Geneva was the first “Study Bible” with extensive commentary notes in the margins.
The Geneva Bible is the version quoted from hundreds of times by William Shakespeare in his plays. Also called the “Breeches Bible”, the Geneva Bible is the only Bible ever able to outsell and exceed the popularity of the King James Bible, as it did in the early 1600’s until its printing ceased in 1644. In fact, one of the greatest ironies of history, is that Protestants of all denominations today embrace the King James Version of the Bible (which reads 90% the same as the Geneva), even though the King James Version is not a Protestant Bible (it’s Anglican / Church of England). Most Protestants have never even heard of the Bible of their own heritage: the Geneva Bible. It was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, & other English refugees in ever-neutral Geneva, Switzerland… fleeing the persecution of Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary in England. Mary would not tolerate the Protestant Geneva Bible, which proclaimed the Pope an “antichrist” in its commentary notes.
REAL Protestants were former Catholics who protested against the satanic Roman Catholic church..
The KJV came later and it's the bible of the Anglican church and nowadays this church cooperates with the Vatican...
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John Threethirty
8 hours ago (edited)
@Hans S thank you! I'm Studying to show myself approved, 😃
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John Threethirty
8 hours ago
@Hans S I like the Geneva version too!