Monday, 26 December 2022

NTEB is for pseudo-Catholics

Critiquing Geoffrey Grider, Fake Minister of NTEB


Jun 15, 2021

You can't even make it past the opening of one of Geoffrey's NowTheEndBegins podcasts without stumbling over multiple half-truths, deception and outright falsehoods. Is this the type of "Bible Teacher" and "Minister" we need in the church? Or should Geoffrey Grider be held accountable by someone for his lies and false teachings?  



The problem with Geoffrey Grider is he isn't saved, though he thinks he is.
He really believes he got saved by John 3:16, which can't be at all, because when JESUS said that He hadn't yet shed his blood for the forgiveness of our sins and had he not yet been buried and risen from the dead.
And John 3:16 is part of the Kingdom Gospel message to Israel and not part of HIS Gospel of Grace through Paul.
My Gospel message is based on Paul's doctrine ON BEHALF of the Lord JESUS:
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
I've been listening to NTEB for over 10 years, every single podcast and Bible study. And I can tell you that what NTEB is doing is perfectly fine and sound doctrine. If you actually listen to NTEB you will understand that he's trying to lead people to the LORD.
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Bruce Peters
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I listened for many years. And participated on his blog as a poster. I know more than you can possibly understand about this man and his works. In fact I used to support his street ministry. He teaches a false doctrine of dispensationalism, he is Peter Ruckman all the way. And he has been promising you followers for years that "the end has begun". How long does the end begin, exactly? Geoffrey just wants a following, and he wants to write sensationalist propaganda instead of having a real job.....so he wants you to pay him to do that. Enjoy!
 @Bruce Peters  you obviously don't know what NTEB stands for. He has never said that the end has begun. He doesn't teach the end begins when he started NTEB. It's the name of his podcast not a proclamation that the end has begun. Geoffrey teaches that you must rightly divide the scripture. Thats what the Bible says 👇 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 👉"RIGHTLY DEVIDING"👈 And the Bible also has dispensation if you dont understand dispensation then you dont understand the Bible. The Bible is clearly divided, OLD & NEW TESTAMENT. Plus it has many different types of dispensation 👇  Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 what you dont understand is how to understand the Bible. If you can't tell the difference between the Jews, Gentiles and the body of Christ then you're not very smart. There is a clear difference who the the Bible is teaching too. I dont practice animal sacrifice. Why don't you? The Jews in the old testament did animal sacrifice why aren't you? Because its a different dispensation. You dont stone people to death do you? Why not? The Jews did God command them to, so why don't you? Because that's a different dispensation. You're a false teacher and you are completely wrong about NTEB. 🚨
 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  NOW the end BEGINS. What does "Now" mean? I know, as a rapture idolater it's hard to admit. But give it a try. NOW means what? BEGINS is a present tense verb. Meaning, what ever has begun, has begun. So how can the end begin for 10+ years??? Will it ever actually begin, or does Geoffrey just get to keep stringing you along while you fork over money so the failed Hollywood extra can get a little fame and fortune?
 @Bruce Peters  https://youtu.be/FhMELFeKDlk. The end is "NOW" you are living in the end of days YOU BETTER GET READY BECAUSE 👇👇👇👇Proverbs 27:1 Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth. 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 Many many people will die today and the end is NOW. The End could come for you tonight. Are you ready for the end NOW?
 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  Yes I am ready, but that isn't what this fraud is talking about.
 @Bruce Peters  And its been the end for over 2000 years . 1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  So where are we in terms of the end in 2022?
 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  Well, this whole thing is silly. Grider deliberately attempts to create never-ending urgency with the emotive words "NOW THE END BEGINS" but it really means nothing, since you believe the end began 2000 years ago. So you make the claim that we are perpetually in a state of "the end" which means....we never are at the end, and never will be. By your own definition. Thanks for proving my point once again. These fake ministries are just there for entertainment.
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 @Bruce Peters  2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  Right, you keep appealing to this logic. But that means urgency for today is destroyed. Because it could be easily another 2 days, 5 days, 10 days (10,000 years).
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 @Bruce Peters  Geoffrey now sells a calendar that links the rapture to spring because he thinks the rapture has something to do with Israel. That calendar costs 'only' $19.95 (why not $20?). Just wait until after April and then he turns out to be a misguided date setter. But until then, he's made good money out of it...
YOU, Bruce Peters are a desperate man!!! God have mercy on you for your jealousy... what is could it possibly be???
I just stumbled across BRUCE PETER'S... Talking about "Hobbyist"???? Talking about Geoffrey Grider???? Geoffrey Grider has podcast 4 times a week!!! YOU CAN'T SEE HIM!!! And He talks about JESUS all of the time!!! He has raised money to give KJV Bibles away for FREE. He has managed to give away Bibles to the tune of 80 some thousand!!! What on earth is your problem??? Geoffrey??? Entertainment??? Are you kidding me??? You outta be ashamed of yourself!!! YOU...Bruce Peters 👈 are a twitt and a Hobbyist if ever there was one! For your information, it is alot of work to put Bibles in boxes every single day and ship them to jails to people who are asking for them!!! My friend Lori Ann moved from Maine to St. Augustine with her two children. She works at the NTEB Bookstore where Geoffrey...you know... the person that you are choosing to attack on this particular day, the money hungry person that you are calling a WOLF (?).... well...he won't even order a Bible that is NOT the King James and sell it at the Bookstore!!! YOU need to get SAVED!!! You wouldn't know how that KJBIBLE works or how to use it if you had it in your hand!!! God blesses this ministry...if you want to complain and accuse...tell it to God!!! What a piece of work you are Bruce Peter...mister wise guy...blabber mouth talking trash. YOU outta be ashamed of yourself!!!
Geoffrey Grider is a false teacher who preaches the wrong (works based) Gospel, because he mixes the Kingdom Gospel for Israel with the Gospel of Grace by Paul.
Get saved!
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
False, inaccurate, nonsense! You owe this man a huge, apology!”
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Bruce Peters
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Thanks that reminds me, I need to do another video about this perverted liar.
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IF HES A FAKE MINISTER HES DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF IT. THOUSANDS BEING SAVED AND MINISTERED TO. HE DOES PREACH THE GOSPEL. IVE WATCHED HIS SHOW FOR YEARS AND HES NOT FEAR PORN. INSTEAD OF DOING THIS POST YOU SHOULD DO WHAT CHRISTIANS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND THATS C A L L HIM AND TELL HIM YOUR OPINIONS. YOURE THE ONE BEING SNARKY AND SARCASTIC. BE A MAN OF GOD AND CALL AND TALK TO THE MAN.
Bruce Peters
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Maybe you can explain why every one of his posts is filled with sensationalism, all of them have loads of information bragging about his accomplishments and asking for money - but NONE OF THEM have a link to the Gospel or even a snippet about the Gospel. And there isn't an easy link right on his website to a page laying out the Gospel.
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 @Bruce Peters  Conac him directly and discuss your issues with him. There was a recent video of his I really disagreed with. I’m no the least bi interested in dialogue with you or any attempt to change your views. Contact him directly.
 @Chuck Edgerton  I have had plenty of direct contact with him over the years. Checkout the video I did a couple of years ago on his fund raising weirdness. He banned me from his site because of it but he wouldn't talk to me via phone and explain himself. He has refused all further communication. That should tell you something. Perhaps you can figure out his fund raising practices.
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 @Bruce Peters  Great. Then you don’t need to talk to me then. Glad you contacted him. Problem solved.
 @Chuck Edgerton  No offense, but I don't need to talk to you anyway. I don't answer to you. Go get educated on what he has said and done. He's a grifter. Or don't. It's your money.
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I think he went off the true path a few years back, he can't conceal that, he condemns churches for being productions when he is doing the same things.
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Can't stand Grider but God's word will all be fulfilled in His time.
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You are the phony hypocrite. Your whole channel is full of garbage critcizing others . I don't see a Gospel presentation on your channel either. You're and angry liar. He absolutely teaches the Bible in his podcasts. You are disgusting.
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Bruce Peters
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Yes the purpose of my channel is to call out these false prophets and fake ministers. I never said I am a minister. Grider claims to be a minister of the Gospel, but there is far more content on each of his blog posts about himself, and donations, then Jesus Christ and the Gospel. You can hate on me if you want, but you can't deny that truth.
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@ N S,
Paul was a disgusting sinner and yet JESUS saved him and turned him into our special apostle of the gentiles.
Get saved:
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
 
PS: I posted this message MANY times on NTEB and many people liked it, until Geoffrey Grider booted me because I asked for it after he had booted a brother who believes in the right Gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and who had posted many great Gospel of Grace memes on his site, which Geoffrey Grider saw as 'spam'.
And then Geoffrey asked me not to 'spam' 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 anymore and that was my limit, because people need to kill me to stop me from proclaiming the right Gospel, and calling the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 'spam' was my limit because it's the Gospel of JESUS Christ THROUGH Paul!
17:38 No! You are incorrect. It is not by anything does salvation come. ONLY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST The LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD DOES SALVATION COME.
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Bruce Peters
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Thanks for twisting my words. I didn't say they can be saved by anything outside of the blood. I said God can use any means He chooses to bring people to Himself, even broken people.
 @Bruce Peters  It is still a False statement that you made and wrote. I didn't twist anything. What Bible reference books, chapters, and verses do you use to support your hypothetical statement?
 @Bruce Peters  John 6:37 is clear as mud when I read it.
 @wwtjoy gbths  I get the general idea from the Apostle Paul, who wrote this: Phl 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: Phl 1:16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: Phl 1:17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. Phl 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. I also have experience with this - some people are brought to Christ via nontraditional means, and then God in His mercy perfects them. It is God who does the work. I preach against false gospels in my videos, but this isn't one of those times.
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 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  John 3:16 is NOT the Gospel, but 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
Get saved:
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
In one of his earlier posts, he falsely accuses gay people of not being able to physically reproduce. Um…there are a lot of humans who can't physically reproduce…it doesn't matter if they're gay or straight.
That's dumb. What are you talking about? 2 men can't reproduce, and 2 women can't reproduce. Basic biology, basic Bible.
The mudflower is totally a new age symbol too.
Please do another video on the latest from the God a minute clown..
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didnt Henderson make a STD joke back in September 2020 in this video https://youtu.be/xn78TDpchOA Coughs, maybe Henderson ' s jokes about his late wife might be worth rehashing since ... Not implying anything but Henderson making sick jokes raises more questions on how his wife likely died
I see there is a German version of Bedell at https://youtube.com/channel/UCX0MAu4HJjav7yaQ7zMLPFQ She btw has 10K discernmentphobic followers
Bruce Peters
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LOL if I dont laugh I will cry
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 @Bruce Peters  it's sad that Chelsi creating knockoffs But even creepier is some Chelsi knockoffs have 9 or 10 thousand subscribers
Found Grider 's IMDB page and it mentions he runs NTEB and he is far from alone of Rapture hobbyists with IMDB pages. Found at least 6 others including Bedell and Scarbrough on IMDB https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0340844/ Btw is Grider 's IMDB page I should mention I have a IMDB page but I don't hide that I do theatre and film acting work And unlike the hobbyists types I don't hide my past or present
Daystar started today its annual fleece a thon aka beg a thon called "Hope For The World" and they got Larry Huch on there fleecing people 😡 Btw, Huch is a Pre Trib Rapture dispy and a Prosperity Gospel teacher if anyone wanted to know.
Barry Scarbrough is a shill for NWO , IMO I mean according to "Christian" omen readers online who prefer numerology over bible reading If Barry was a actual watchman like they supposedly are He would have been purged off YT by now. Btw, there is no persecution or purging of Christians on Youtube Cause a lot of the end times hobbyists keep getting a free pass on Youtube Right, Scarbrough and Caldeira and Boyce and Bedell and Acquaviva and Steve Fletcher Who never get reprimanded by YT and if they do They just spew garbage on backup accounts that YT enables.
How many 40 day warnings has serial date setter Steve Fletcher spewed over the years Surprised Youtube btw hasnt shut down his racket for good Since Youtube supposedly is cracking down on "Christian" vloggers who spew numerology influenced racism and failed Rapture dates https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10227396754930039&id=1396864781
Who had closest to 50 days in the "How long Before Barry Scarbrough Breaks His Word About Making His Last Video . .Again" Pool? I admit I thought it would only be a month . . he lasted about 20 days longer than my guess.
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I was going to make a prediction last week when I saw he had set tommoro the 20th as the new rapture date.l knew he was chomping at the bit to get back on here.I watched his video today and hes trying to extend his date out into July already before tommoro even gets here
I knew he would come back after he set his june 20th rapture date last week.He cant stand not getting the attention. He swears he never reads any of his comments ,but I know that's a lie because he responded to me one time and then blocked me.
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 @Syd Barrett  I been blocked with just one comment on his channel using over a half dozen aliases. ...if he's not doing it, he has a group of like minded charlatans who block anything that doesn't fit his (their) agenda
 @This & That  Barry 's satanic influenced discernmentphobic followers Are fulfilling 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Bruce is a prophet! ...he said Barry would be back....and he is, today! 39 minutes of mind numbing babbling. Need an idiot protection vaccine from the spew.
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Well Barry is back put a video out today and actually said that no where in scripture does it say we can't set a date 🤦🏻‍♂️ and the fact that his followers say it's perfectly ok! We're supposed to watch🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
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He set a date last week of june 20th.Now before tommoro even gets here ,hes extended that out into july..
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 @Syd Barrett  he is friends with Joseph Acqua-shiva Who spews dates every week And also is well liked by Aaron Pexioto aka God a Minute A freeloading con artist from Canada who likely has never attended a actual church service on a Sunday morning
 @Joshua Brunken  l asked the God a minute clown ," if jesus christ was standing before you ,would you behave like you do on your videos? Maybe it's ok to hop on the roof of moms rapture van and blow a shofar at the beer store ,l just dont really know what God thinks about that.l know what I think about it ,but maybe i have been wrong ,l am trying to understand this rapture club.
 @Syd Barrett  it's June 21 in my country... I'm still here...
 @Dominus Publius  Barry says if you believed him and now you are disappointed .... "that's on you brother" "
 @Dominus Publius  Focus has shifted now on Dr barry aw and mr bones.Because hes been working on a timeline for months and he has it all worked out that tommoro is the day of the rapture June 25th and the God a minute clown and several other channels have all bought in to it ...this is a big one ...
Someone needs to do a video of FB Prophetess Rachel Gould Example is a comment said recently ... https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10219978749838664&id=1220345328 In which promotes date setting and Barry Awe I.e. Gould has no credibility IMO if she promoting a con artist like Awe
Grider like most hobbyist types are failed actors or failed singers I'm a actual actor and co runs a media prayer ministry And it sickens me these hobbyists lie to folks But it also surprising none of these failed actors don't go work for PureFlix or some other Christian film company Cause most of these hobbyists are attention seekers who are mad they failed in secular acting world
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He reminds me of a guy named Art Bell who had a radio show called Coast To Coast. Sensationalistic bunk.
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I remember listening to that guy on AM radio back in the 80s
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This guy has already locked in on Macron as the antichrist..... but lately has tried to cover his bases by effectively saying that even if Macron got voted out, who knows, he might still end up as the UN Secretary General....... smh
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Surprised the racists who hate Obama aren't upset at Grider for claiming a white guy could be the AC And yes most Obama is the AC types are racists
It isnt going to be any politician. Because they already have half the people hating them to begin with.The antichrist will likely come out of nowhere ,and claim to be other worldly .His past wont even be a factor when he shows the world his capacity to solve the world's problems using technology that will seem almost supernatural.
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 @Joshua Brunken  No way.The jews would never believe him ,not even half of Americans approve of him now.The antichrist is likely not going to be an ex president who happens to be playing golf in Hawaii right now.l dont know who fits the description, but I imagine that it will be somebody that nobody knows anything about right now.
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 @Syd Barrett  so the racists are wrong about Obama being the AC
 @Joshua Brunken  I think they are very confused, and many are racists because they want it to be a black guy .l would be more inclined to believe that the antichrist might show up in a giant UFO and claim he came down from the stars to save mankind from certain destruction.If satan gives over his power to this man ,then he will have the capacity to make people believe something like that.
Now there are those that actually believe the ac is Donald trump ,and theres a channel dedicated to it called antichist 45.They guy " brother paul" took a break from making his videos about it ,but I'm guessing he will be back.l find this very interesting because on the other end of the spectrum are all those Q Christians like Chis yoon who are sure that Trump was appointed by God himself
 @Syd Barrett  TDS & OBS is a problem in dispy circles
 @Joshua Brunken  The Papacy is the Antichrist by default because every Pope is the disguised Luciferian Roman emperor and the meaning of 'Antichrist' is 'in place of Christ' and that's one of the titles of every Pope: Vicar of Christ.
'Obama's real name is Bari (Malik) Shabazz and he's the grandson of Adolf Hitler: the son of the liquidated Malcolm X and one Hitler's two daughters, because Hitler did not commit suicide and he was aided by the Vatican (=the disguised Luciferian Roman empire) to flee with other top Nazis to South America.
'Obama' is the man behind Roman Catholic Joe Biden.
Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic too and he was controlled by the Jesuits.
I believe the Pope will play the role as False Prophet to deceive, because this Jesuit Pope is the Antichrist, and I believe 'Obama' might play the role of the Antichrist, though he's in fact the false prophet of 'peace, progress and prosperity'.
I said this many times on NTEB, but Geoffrey Grider keeps believing that Macron will be the Antichrist, but most people on earth are not European like Macron but have a colored skin, so 'Obama', who's half European and half African-American is a much better candidate.
 @Hans S  so the AC cant be a white guy is what ur saying
 @Joshua Brunken  I don't use terms like 'white' and 'black' because we're all the offspring of Adam and Eve and there's only ONE human race.
I use the term 'ethnicity' and yes most people on earth are non-Europeans with a colored (from light brown to dark brown) skin and if the Antichrist wants to be accepted by most people on earth, and the Bible tells us he will, then he must be someone who attracts ALL people on earth, and 'Obama' is still popular in Europe for example.
Of course he's NOT popular in Russia and among conservatives in the US and elsewhere, but everything will change after Gog and Magog, Ezekiel 38/39 at the beginning of the Time of Jacob's Trouble, directly after the rapture and this will be world war three.
 @Hans S  so you believe in the Pre Trib Rapture theory from the 1800s
 @Hans S  I said what I said Cause a lot of the Obama is the AC types online seem to like saying racist things about black athletes and politicians and celebs I'm not saying Obama isnt possibly the AC But many of the Obama is the AC crowd types online seem to love saying racist things And that is why I am very skeptical of the claims Obama maybe the AC
 @Joshua Brunken  I believe in the Biblical pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture doctrine by the apostle Paul ON BEHALF of the Lord JESUS Christ.
 @Joshua Brunken  The term 'racism' is unscientific because there is only ONE human race.
As I said before 'Obama' is half European (Austrian) and half Afro-American, so this makes him very suited to appeal to all people on earth.
Barry may be gone ,but he hasnt been silent .He has set a new rapture date of june 20 .Instead of saying hes setting a date he now says it's a " high watch possible date of the rapture".
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Date Setters love to call their dates as "High Rapture Watch Time" to have wiggle room to justify their failed predictions
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He's actually back as of this morning😑
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 @GPR 86  😢 Too bad he couldnt stay away But than Again Barry is a attention seeking Acquadiva as they call it on youtubr
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We all knew he would be back.I just read a comment from some guy on his channel that claims he had been just lost without Barry ,and hes been checking his channel everyday to see if hes come back...another clue for his followers...but they wont caught it at all
We all knew he wouldnt be able to stay away.His migraines went away when he stopped lying on youtube about the rapture ...who knew? So now hes coming back and going to start setting dates again while telling his followers " now dont blame me if it doesnt happen" that's on you ...
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 @Syd Barrett  Barry Scarbrough is a closet satanist and sociopath. The demons probably pressured him to get back to being a fake watchman
 @Joshua Brunken  Yeah there is some posers in the rapture club that arent even Christians at all.They are there to purposely put out misinformation and lead people estray.They are rewarded somehow for doing this sort of like a satanic ritual.lf I had to pick one and bet on him being a poser it would be that ridiculous Barry Aw.This guy doesnt believe anything he tells his followers ,yet he has a loyal following and they love him and believe everything he tells them.This man has some undiagnosed psychological problems .You can tell that he derives great pleasure from talking to his plastic skeleton everyday.
 @Joshua Brunken  Couldn't agree more. I had to pray for cleansing after watching his latest video after saying a couple weeks ago it was his last video. He is indeed possessed, and yet people flock to him.
 @This & That  most of the DS and RD types are possessed. Discernmentphobia is rampant in Rapture hobby circles. They love to threaten violence against critics and celebs And claim anyone who disagrees with them is demon possessed You wonder if the demon possessed allegations aimed at discerning Christians is part of defelecting their true heart
 @This & That  Joseph Acquaviva and Shane Caldeira I believe are demon possessed They and Steve Fletcher have a lot of narccism and hate in their hearts
 @Joshua Brunken  I am pleased to report, that I have advanced. I suppose it's because I have given scriptural examples which debunk their pretrib agenda, so I am no longer called a mocker and scoffer, but rather a hater.
 @This & That  funny how DS types love to insult instead of having a mature conversation
 @Joshua Brunken  Barry has now reposted crap from 2015 tonight, as he didn't get his rapture today.
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 @This & That  the fact Youtube dont shut down either Barry 's psuedo ministries Scarbrough & Awe Shows there is no such thing as a purge of Christians on Youtube Either Youtube knows Scarbrough and Awe are frauds Or there is no persecution of Christians happening on Youtube
 @This & That  he is desperate. He is on the Kristy Rivera and Samantha White stage of Rapture Hysteria. Full blown meltdown is coming. Also, surprised Barry isnt going on a rant about 3rd temple or some celeb That seems to be the go to tropes for Rapture Hobbyists When things are too quiet for them.
 @Joshua Brunken  l respect your opinion on things alot, and I know you debate these people when you can.l get really frustrated trying to debate these followers and I get deleted all the time.The generation 2434 guy likes to let me make a comment, and then when the followers start responding ,he deletes my return comments to effect the narrtive of his followers, its a very sneaky trick that they use all the time.l suggested an open debate right here on youtube with someone who disagrees with them who is well versed in the scripture. I am not the guy for that, but I always think of you as the perfect guy for that.Bruce would do well in a debate too,together you 2 would make a solid team.They will never agree to it.l always ask them ," what are you afraid of? If you are hearing from God in your dreams ,and speaking his truths ,then shouldnt that stand up to any scrutiny that the so called " scoffers " have to throw at it?....l get really frustrated over it here lately.I have tryed to go to the Lord with it ,because maybe I'm wrong about this rapture club.Maybe God is using these people for something ,l sure wish I understood what that is.If God is using these people to draw folks to jesus Christ, l dont ever want to criticize them again.This thing has become a major issue for me...
 @Joshua Brunken  Hes posting something about a Mexican wedding dream he had six months ago.I gotta ask all of you ,does anyone remember a dream that had 6 months ago? I don't even remember if I had one last night.These people like barry must get up every morning and write thier dreams down and analyze what it was supposed to mean.lts ethier that or they are making it all up ,which is what l think is happening..they are all day dreams ,barry just cuts the day off from the dream ,that way he can say God sent it to him while he was asleep and he has no control over it
 @Syd Barrett  only time I remember dreams Is vaguely and write them down as Scifi or Horror movie ideas. These Rapture dreams folks are just making crap up as they go along and keeping their rackets alive at any cost.
 @Joshua Brunken  They always claim God sent them the dream ,but if it includes some prediction or a rapture date ,they never come back and say " whoops ,l guess it wasnt God that told me that afterall" Instead they say no more about that dream ,and just cook up another one and put it out there.
 @Syd Barrett  these date setting types Aka High Rapture watch Time folks never have any humility to repent for their behavior
Bruce, you should review the cardiologist being promoted by rapture hobbyists as of late And also the YT channel that interviewed him at https://youtu.be/C6X8PiHWBTw
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That guy popped in my feed this week and I listened to his bs for a while .Most of the well educated are all posers in the rapture club,that's what I think anyway.
 @Syd Barrett  they all like to pimp the same folks It is a cult at this point Cause none of them ever use discernment or self control Or even be biblically sound
I've long lost count how many channels I've been booted from. The only term I have for all of them is....cult.
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Ron craig has a very unknown channel called the rooted word.He just made a couple videos about the rapture club and that's what he calls them too,a cult.This man isnt very popular and he only has a handful of followers. But if you want to learn something about what the bible says ,hes a great teacher.He is a Greek translator, and he is able to read the ancient Greek text and translate it to english.I have learned a ton of things from listening to him.
The moment I read contact with space aliens I lost it. How do people like him get away with garbage like this?
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Many of them are working aliens into their rapture thoery now .
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Because there are multitudes of sheep who don't have any direction.
Where did Dana Coverstone go? 😂
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Good question. Everyone was sure betting all their chips on that guy
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He is still doing it ,has dreams of great significance every single week
"Soon" is geting to be a very elastic term amongst these types of channel.
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I keep telling people that always say we are in the final days that is true, ever since Christ was crucified we have been in the final days, soon could be 100 more years from now, we just have to keep living according to how God intended us to live.
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Soon is the most abused word by the Rapture hobbyist community
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Racist numerology zealot Joseph Acquaviva and his racist followers now claiming Obama causes violence in Chicago So he could become the antichrist I.e. Obama derangement syndrome and racism is a growing problem in Pre Trib circles
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What is most ironic if folks like Grider live off PayPal donations While screaming at same time that people with OnlyFans accounts are trying to make easy money and too lazy to get a actual job. Not defending OF per se, but I see Rapture Hobbyists are religious prostitutes online Spewing speculationism for PayPal donations
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I like this comparison, it's very accurate.
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The fact Facebook and Youtube dont ahut down folks like Grider Is proof there is no censorship of Christians Also... Why do folks like Grider have numerous backup channels on YT
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Yeah very suspicious, guys like PragerU and Steven Crowder get censored (granted Alex Jones deserved to get booted because he really was getting more extreme, but unfortunately that Jackass got turned into a martyr by the conservatives when he should not have been made a martyr.) But These dispies complain about censorship and yet are not on the receiving end, very suspicious. Granted sites like LifeSite news are being censored, by big tech, but I'm suspicious about that as well as it only happened because they decided being anti-vaccine was the hill to die on even though they didn't get any censorship (from what I know) until they started yammering about the Covid Vaccine and saying it was EEEEVILL!!!! I'm personally vaccine-hesitant until we get confirmation from the FDA that it is safe and that it wasn't dangerously rushed. But for guys like Grider to yell censorship when in places like China and Russia people are legitimately being censored if not "silenced". They treat 1984 like it's an inevitable prophecy that no one can fight against... I kinda hate Orwell for making Ingsoc seem unbeatable since there is no nation in human history that is capable of what Orwell wrote his Villain Sue to be capable of. There is even an argument on TVTropes on how Ingsoc can be defeated and if they can be. Due to my Christian faith, I see no system that is set against God that is capable of pulling off what some fictional dystopia did for as long as it did. All Orwell did in his warning about what a dystopia would be like, was just simply give future tyrants a guidebook on how to be a tyrant. I almost wonder if the leaders of the woke movement HAVE read 1984 and are intentionally using it as a guidebook because they know people will call them out on it and do nothing because it's a catch 22: If we ban 1984 because it is causing so much unintended chaos through wannabe tyrants using it as a guidebook and wannabe revolutionaries using it as a guidebook as well (the tyrants and revolutionaries are the same people), then we are no different than the book burners, yet if we continue to let it give people bad ideas like Mein Kampf gives people bad ideas, then we may end up with the next Hitler or Stalin anyway because Orwell's attempt at "Know thy enemy" has backfired horribly. Granted it's my personal opinion that Orwell did a bad job with his work. If there is anything of merit to that cursed book that isn't doom and gloom and "The Party is undefeatable". Because by making The Party look undefeatable, it has two consequences; first off it will make people despair and do nothing because The Party is supposed to be undefeatable anyway (my mother is a prime example of this, she is a defeatist through and through), the other consequence is that there will be those who will react with rage, and we will end up with the real-life equivalents of Star Wars' Saw Gurrera or worse. Orwell's nihilism is not something to be admired as a Christian, the Soviet Union fell eventually (modern Russia is its own beast no matter what boomers like my mom might say), and so will any other totalitarian regime because they are up against someone who will defend humanity no matter what, and He doesn't even have to be there physically to do it, the one who raises nations and brings them down Himself.
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 @Tempest Venator  I suspect many of these hobbyists are controlled opposition I.e. satanic agents sent to weaken the church Never is the bible or evwn the gospel is preached They demonize prayer and evangelism types They have made threats towards non Pre Tribbers Yet if the Pre Trib Rapture is true, why have none of these clowns Some of whom btw have dozens of backup channels Been severly persecuted or silenced I'm convinced Acquaviva and Caldeira and Grider and Bedell and Henderson and Boyce and Steve Fletcher And Blue Heaven Gene, I mean Blue Heaven Gigi And countless others like them Are NWO shills trying to lead Christians astray They scream persecution and censorship and yet have faced no repercussions for their rhetoric. I have payed more of a price than Fletcher and Ellis and Acquaviva and Caldeira and Grider and Boyce and Bedell have. Wonder why that is, if I'm supposedly a evil person trying to stop false prophets who dont attend a actual church And are YT watchfolks with a GOD complex and massive egos
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 @Joshua Brunken  You got it all figured out.All social media is infiltrated with profession posers and trolls.All social media is a form of mind control.
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 @Bax 60  that and these Rapture hobbyists arent facing a 1000 of the persecution or stress That pastors in Canada are facing as of late That should tell us what these folks are, since the Devil sint interested in persecuting these Rapture hobbyists Many of whom work for him or are useful idiots to him
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Who art thou as in thy greatness...who is as I AM
 @LEGIOUSIAM DCCCLXXXVIII  we know u are a discernmentphobic troll No one cares what you get payed by Tim Henderson and Robert Breaker to think.
I think therefore I am...
 @Tempest Venator  Grider censors people on his site all the time. He booted me. It's ok for Grider but not others.
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 @Bruce Peters  Ah... Classical liberal hypocrisy... oh wait... he's supposed to be a conservative? Hoo boy!
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He never accepted me in because I think he seen I'm real.
 @Bruce Peters  He booted me too but I asked for it myself because Geoffrey had booted a fellow Gospel of Grace believer for no good reason:
 
NTEB replied to you on Just In Case You’re Confused About What Halloween Is Actually All About, Michael’s Craft Stores Has Created A Satanic Display To Clear Up Your Confusion 2 months ago
Hans 2 months ago (Removed by Geoffrey Grider)
Your site is not heaven so kick me from your site too and I'm still SAVED by JESUS and not by you. Once you told me: can we also talk about other things than salvation? In heaven you'll find out that the topic will be ONLY about salvation because that's the meaning of the name of JESUS = I AM (God) is SALVATION.
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And of course you're not a 'Bibles bully' yourself. https://uploads.disquscdn.c...I'm so glad you're not JESUS or else a lot of people would end up in the lake of fire who JESUS has SAVED. On this site you can play God and on your YouTube channel, but not in the presence of JESUS Christ.I actually learned something from Zouwu or whatever his real name is. I have most of his memes stored on my PC.Like this one: https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
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Feel better? And now you're gone. Auf Wiedersehen.
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By the way, I had voluntarily left there earlier and I deleted my Disqus account, but I saw that some people missed me, and those are mainly people who believe in the correct Grace Gospel, so I decided to return for them and to continue anyway, trying to get people to believe in the right saving gospel.
Now the bizarre thing is that Geoffrey himself proclaimed 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 at least twice this year on his site, but he claims to be saved by John 3:16, which can't be at all, because when JESUS said that He hadn't yet shed his blood for the forgiveness of our sins and had he not yet been buried and risen from the dead.
So what did pigheaded Geoffrey Grider say to me after previously banishing a brother who, like me, believes in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 as THE gospel?
 
NTEB replied to you on Just In Case You're Confused About What Halloween Is Actually All About, Michael's Craft Stores Has Created A Satanic Display To Clear Up Your Confusion 2 months ago
Hans 2 months ago (talking to a sister who believes in the right Gospel)
Has Zouwu really been banned? Have you had contact with him?I can still see his posts.This is what 'former Catholic' Shannon said: −AvatarShannon K NTEB • 19 hours ago//There's no false doctrine here, not by a long shot.//Not by you Pastor Geoffrey- but there is by a few others on these boards. It is getting wearying- the constant harranguing and bickering and calling others unsaved. The fact that they have the idea that "they" must correct you and everyone else is downright disrespectful to say the least. For any newcomer to these boards, this is so confusing and ugly to read and then try to make head or tails of it all. Just my 2 cents God bless you!
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He is booted, and let me ask you one more time to stop spamming 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, it is not the answer to every question. People can and do get saved on John 3:16, John 10, Acts 16, and dozens of other places.
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I'm a follower of Paul on behalf of JESUS or a follower of JESUS according to Paul, so I don't need Geoffrey Grider at all, but he thinks to know things better than Paul and that's very serious.
 
Btw: Geoffrey Grider deleted many of my comments, but I can still see them on my profile page.
Grider set the stage for psychopathic discernmentphobic Joseph Acquashiva and God a Minute types
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Yes,all the hype.And nothing they say ever comes to pass
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And PayPal enables their crap. If PayPal shut down accounts of Rapture hobbyists Most of the RD and DS folks would.be forced to get a actual job instead of being parasites who sponge off others.
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And that's the evidence of being a false prophet.
Pardon my French here, but it’s obvious Grider is a bullshit artist, it’s as simple as that, Occam’s razor holds true here, His hatred of the Catholic Church, and he is one of those people who refuse to believe that the He of Daniel 9:27 is Jesus and his covenant is not the end times, but Christ’s death, keep up the good work brother
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The "he is certainly not Jesus. "he" is "the prince who is to come" in v 27. His people in v 26 "shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. " So who are the ones who did this - Jews (no), Chistians (no).
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 @Endtimes Traveller  read Daniel in a non-Masoretic version of the Old Testament, maybe use the Septuagint, the Jews of the 900’s removed scriptures so they could disprove the divinity of Jesus Then tried to pass it off as the Hebrew Old Testament, the Greek Old Testament is the oldest surviving translation we have as the scrolls were destroyed in the temple
 @Endtimes Traveller  I’m sorry let me correct myself, if you read the original Greek Translation of Daniel, by the wording and Grammar implies he is referring to Two individuals, Jesus is the one that ends the temple system and Titus is the one who destroys the city, feel free to disagree, but I hope this clears up my OG statement
 @Logan Berlew  Actually you have it in reverse. Messiah is the Prince is CUT OFF at the end of the 69th Week. THEEEEEEN the prince of the people to come (rome) will destroy the sanctuary and the City. AAAAAAAAND he will confirm a covenant with many for one week. Jesus NEVER made any Covenant AFTER He was cut off. He made the New Covenant on the night BEFORE was cut off/Crucified.
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 @Mocker of Mockers  so are you saying hat Daniel’s 70th week has been fulfilled or still in the future, I’m genuinely asking Becasue I see no reason to think there is a gap of 2000+ years between the 69th and 70th weeks
 @Logan Berlew  Sounds like the gap theory where billions of years passed between Genesis verse one and two.
 @Warren88 Olen  yea, they are reading somthing into the text that isn’t stated and they get some wonky results
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 @Warren88 Olen  perfect example: “I believe that there is a rapture based on 1 Thessalonians 4:17” I didn’t believe that but without Authority people can spread that false doctrine even though the word Harpatzo is used negatively most times it’s used
All I know is we have to be at the rapture in the next nanosecond. ...Chelsi claims the Lord is speaking to her. ...snake oil Barry is practicing numerology on his community tab. Crazy Unleashing guy says it's here....so does watchwoman Lisa mcnugget. I must have got left behind!
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Rapture theory, KJV only, excessive political content, extreme anti-Catholicism, begs for donations, yep he checks all the main boxes lol
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Add conspiracy theories and pseudo science to the mix
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The Devil LOVES Catholicism. It belongs to him.
Oh, my mom tends to read this guy whenever she goes to rapture ready (which thankfully has been a while). This guy is virulently anti-Catholic, like, you know that lady from the 1800s who wrote a fake memoir that turned Americans against Irish Catholics because of the fake belief that they drown infants to baptize them? He writes stuff like that.
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What is the rapture ready?
 @Bax 60  It's basically a website that posts news that co-aligns with the beliefs of the owner. It links news from the Gateway Pundit, Zero Hedge, the infamous Natural News, etc. It even links stuff from NTEB and Olive tree ministries. Another thing that Tony Breedan (the owner of the site) has on the site is his own blog that talks about rapture stuff and his own version of Hagee's Doomsday Clock where he lists things that are "clear signs that we are at the end of days" based on certain factors on the list. From natural phenomena, apostasy, whatever the woke are doing, what's going on in Israel, and of course what rapture sign list would be complete without a potential Antichrist Candidate. I remember back during the days of Trump that the French President Macron was the Antichrist candidate on the list because everybody made a big deal about him back then, now I'm sure he has Sleepy Joe as the Candidate solely because he is the U.S. President and China is apparently never seen as a potential location for Antichrists to originate from because it's east of Israel. He also likes to list any of his critics as cultists if I remember (it's been a while). Basically, you go to rapture ready to get depressed about all the bad news on there because, surprise surprise! There is hardly any good news on that site except for the false good news of Rapture. Bruce should really do a video about Tony Breedan and his website, there is a lot for him to tear a new one.
Wow ,if it wasnt for this channel I wouldnt even know about all these rapture club heros.The ones that shock me more than ever now are the ones that think Trump is still the secret president.And they cast a larger than life golden statue of him wearing a pair of American flag shorts so they can worship it...but now ,another rapture club star " brother paul" has gone the other way ,and insists that Donald Trump is actually the antichrist, and his channel " antichrist 45 is completely dedicated to it.He says the rapture is immenent too,but not before Trump forces Biden out and takes back over in august .
 @Tempest Venator  I used to be a contributor at Rapture Ready and Rapture Forums MB 's long ago But started distancing myself and eventually left those 2 sites When ir became evident that Pre Tribbers can get a pass on anything Juat cause they Pre Trib.
Thank you for exposing this crook!!
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 @Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher  Again: John 3:16 is NOT the Gospel, but 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
Get saved:
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.



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  1. Hanss26 December 2022 at 06:51


     @Joshua Brunken  what verses allegdly prove the Pre Trib Rapture theory

    I'm curious ...
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    Important pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture verses

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 King James Version
    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 King James Version
    1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    'the day of Christ' is the day on which the RAPTURE will happen and 'a falling away' is what will happen after the RAPTURE

    1 Corinthians 15:50-52 King James Version
    50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    Philippians 3:20-21 King James Version
    20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
    21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

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    1. Hanss26 December 2022 at 06:51

      Titus 2:13 King James Version
      13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

      1 Thessalonians 2:19 King James Version
      19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

      1 Thessalonians 5:9 King James Version
      9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

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      Important pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture verses

      1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1599 Geneva Bible
      13 I would not brethren, have you ignorant concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope.
      14 For if we believe that Jesus is dead, and is risen, even so them which sleep in Jesus, will God bring with him.
      15 For this say we unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which live, and are remaining in the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which sleep.
      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      17 Then shall we which live and remain, be caught up with them also in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      18 Wherefore, comfort yourselves one another with these words.

      2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible
      1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our assembling unto him,
      2 That ye be not suddenly moved from your mind, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as it were from us, as though the day of Christ were at hand.
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.
      4 Which is an adversary, and exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

      'the day of Christ' is the day on which the RAPTURE will happen and 'departing' is the RAPTURE and 'a falling away' (KJV) is the effect of the rapture among left behind believers

      1 Corinthians 15:50-52 1599 Geneva Bible
      50 This say I, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
      51 Behold, I show you a secret thing, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
      52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall blow, and the dead shall be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      Philippians 3:20-21 1599 Geneva Bible
      20 But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ,
      21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working, whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

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    2. Hanss26 December 2022 at 06:52

      Titus 2:13 1599 Geneva Bible
      13 Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glory of that mighty God, and of our Savior Jesus Christ.

      1 Thessalonians 2:19 1599 Geneva Bible
      19 For what is our hope or joy, or crown of rejoicing? are not even you it in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

      1 Thessalonians 5:9 1599 Geneva Bible
      9 For God hath not appointed us unto wrath, but to obtain salvation by the means of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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      Joshua Brunken
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       @Hans S what verses allegdly prove the Pre Trib Rapture theory

      I'm curious ...
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       @Hans S  okay

      But you agree that people being prejudiced towards someone who is black or white or Asian or Hispanic

      Is wrong and that people with a lot of hate in their hearts don't go to Heaven
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       @Hans S  is prejudice against ethnic groups wrong ?

      We all are human

      but I'm sure you also agree folks who hate a group of folks cause of skin color or ethnicity is wrong

      And hateful folks like that aren't saved
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       @Joshua Brunken  The correct term is ethnicity. Yes, people who hate other ethnicities than their own are wrong, but we don't go the the lake of fire for hating other people but if we don't believe what the Lord JESUS Christ has DONE for us: the shedding of His blood for the forgiveness of our sins, His burial and resurrection three days after His death.
      We only have to believe this and then we're saved FOREVER and SEALED with the Holy Spirit.
      We should judge other people as if we are BLIND to their appearance.

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    3. Hanss28 December 2022 at 19:21


       @Joshua Brunken  Are you saved?
      I watched your short 'Merry Christmas' video.
      Christmas (Christ Mass) is a Roman Catholic invention and the Roman Catholic church is the disguise of the Luciferian Roman empire and the Lord JESUS Christ was born in September, so what is 'Christmas' all about?
      It's about the celebration of the sun-god Helios, the true god of the Roman empire and it has nothing to do with the birth of JESUS Christ.
      Shouldn't you repent (change your mind) on this?
      Get saved:
      We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
      So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
      Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.

      PS: salvation has nothing to do with faith in the rapture but everything with faith in what the Lord JESUS Christ has DONE for us, so it has NOTHING to do with what we have done, do or will do for JESUS, because it's impossible to earn our salvation.
      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible
      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,
      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

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      Joshua Brunken
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       @Hans S  but isnt hate in the heart a sin

      And shouldn't people repent of xenophobia and predjudcial attitudes.

      Or is love and humility foreign ideals according to Rapture Watchfolks types ?

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    4. Hanss28 December 2022 at 19:49


       @Joshua Brunken  JESUS never celebrated His own day of birth so why should we?
      And birthday celebrations derive from Babylon and it's all about celebrating the egos of sinners.
      You don't have to answer me if you're saved because we all have to answer to God-the Lord JESUS Christ.
      I told you how to get saved and it has nothing to do with the rapture or with ethnicities.

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       @Hans S  according to many Pre Tribbers

      I'm not saved cause Rapture timing is somehow a salvation issue.

      I btw have different opinions about Christmas

      I believe we should celebrate Jesus birth

      But I also don't like some Pagan traditions associated with Christmas.

      I don't use my YT channel much

      But what do you want me to say to celebs

      I.e. open letter videos ?

      Or are you a so called Truther type

      Who believes successful people can't ever repent or renege a deal with the devil.

      I ask cause I'm not perfect and my opinions have changed on some things

      But I think trying to discredit me to defend Steve Fletcher and Joseph Acquaviva types is troubling.

      I.e. the Pre Trib Rapture camp has a bit of a problem with hate merchants who hate various ethnic groups

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  2. Hanss26 December 2022 at 16:53

    Thank God the ROMAN CATHOLIC 'Christmas' is over!

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  3. Hanss27 December 2022 at 11:28

    *sigh* What do you do with people like that? Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher
    Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher
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     @Hans S  you must believeth in the only begotten Son or your not saved. Catholics, Mormons, JW's,7th day Adventist and many other cults believe that Jesus died was buried and rose again. Im not saying you shouldn't believe that. What im saying is John 3:16 kjv is a verse that says whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 the him is the only begotten Son. You must believeth in the only begotten Son. Who is the only begotten Son? Jesus Christ. You must believeth. Why does it say believeth? and not just believe? Because believeth is a continuous belief in someone. The moment you believeth in something you never stop believing in that. Thats the difference in believeth and believe. I can believe something today and stop believing in that something tomorrow. But if you believeth in something that is a continuing belief on what you are believing in, and whosoever believeth shall not perish, but have everlasting life. You must believeth who Jesus said he is, who he said he was, and what he is going to become. It really all come down to believeth.



    Believeth

    Job 15:22 He believeth not that he shall return out of darkness, and he is waited for of the sword.Job 39:24 He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?John 12:44 Jesus

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    1. Hanss27 December 2022 at 11:28

      cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.Romans 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.Romans 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.1 Corinthians 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.1 Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:2 Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?1 Timothy 5:16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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    2. Hanss27 December 2022 at 11:29

      The US is insane and many of its citizens too...

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  4. Hanss8 January 2023 at 10:49

    Live Video From The First SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Of 2023 Shows A Very Round Earth In Beautifully Crisp Detail During Its Short Flight

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    1. Hanss8 January 2023 at 10:53

      Geoffrey likes a good debate...and that's why he bans people....
      His arguments for staying 50/50 on the flat earth/globe earth controversy are just as stupid as his belief that both John 3:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 are the gospel.

      Either one is true or the other is not true.
      And if the globe earth is not true then it is a LIE.
      And if John 3:16 is not the gospel then it is a LIE, even if that verse is good in itself and the earth is indeed ROUND but also flat, so not a spinning ball in space that revolves around the sun.

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  5. Hanss3 February 2023 at 11:46

    ‘Now The End Begins’ Lies To The WinePress

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    Now The End Begins Caught Posting Fake News

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  7. Hanss22 March 2023 at 05:19

    A new attack by false teacher Geoffrey Grider on the Gospel of Grace...

    What is the right Gospel of Grace?
    Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel

    Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.

    The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.

    The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.

    Source: The Seven Churches of Revelation
    Matthew McGee

    Geoffrey Grider HATES the doctrine that says that our Grace Gospel is revealed to us BY The LORD JESUS through PAUL in Romans through Philemon.

    Why?

    Because he claims to have been saved according to John 3:16, which is a great PROMISE but NOT the Gospel of our salvation.
    That's 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    And when the Lord JESUS spoke the words of John 3:16 He was NOT preaching to the gentiles but ONLY to Israel, so how can this be the Gospel of our salvation?

    Geoffrey Grider still needs to get saved and he should stop telling LIES!
    He also should stop asking people for MONEY!
    Don't give a cent to a false teacher!
    And he's always promoting the FREEMASON counterfeit of the true reformation Bible, the Geneva Bible, and that's the KJV.

    Geoffrey Grider NEVER tells people the Papacy is the Antichrist by default, which all reformers knew.
    He seems to be a former Catholic, but all reformers were TRUE former Catholics and they all proclaimed the Papacy is the Antichrist, hence it was also put in the footnotes of the Geneva Bible 1560.

    Geoffrey Grider believes Macron or Zelensky or someone else will be the Antichrist.
    This way of thinking derives from the JESUITS who concocted the doctrine called 'futurism' which teaches that in the end times a 'mysterious man' will arrive at the scene who will be the Antichrist so that people would be distracted from the KNOWLEDGE that the Papacy is the Antichrist by default.

    I'm so gad I don't participate on his CULT anymore!
    He also still believes he lives on a globe....

    Be informed about the right Gospel: Bible Doctrine - doctrine.org

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    1. Hanss22 March 2023 at 05:28

      Does this criticism mean I believe Geoffrey Grider is wrong about everything?
      Of course not.
      He's right about the pre-trib-rapture doctrine but he's wrong when he asserts this doctrine is important for our salvation.
      And I believe Geoffrey Grider sincerely believes in the Lord JESUS Christ.
      But he doesn't understand why God-the Lord JESUS turned Paul into our ONLY apostle in this dispensation of Grace.
      Like so many believers he's mixing Israel's Kingdom Gospel with our Gospel of Grace.

      People who do this are not saved yet!
      I said that MANY times on his site.
      Of course Geoffrey wants to get rid of people like me and that's why he made this new attack on the right Gospel because there are still guests on his site who proclaim this Gospel.....and they probably don't give him MONEY.

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    2. Hanss23 March 2023 at 11:02

      Rob >NTEB 2 days ago edited

      Wow, are you serious?

      Acts 8:36 “And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”

      Did the eunuch say that he believed that Christ died for his sins, and that he was buried and that He rose again the third day? Is water baptism part of salvation?

      Here is another thing:
      1Cor.2:7 “ But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”

      Satan would have known, but he did know about Is.53, which I would like to see how you reconcile that chapter with 1Cor.2:7…

      Peace to you..

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      NTEB Mod >Standingfirm 2 days ago

      Amen. What a lot of people don't understand is that Paul was given the mysteries to reveal them, but those things did not start with Paul. The eunuch in Acts 8 got saved on Ephesians 2:8,9 before Paul wrote it! That was possible because the age of grace existed before Paul, it just wasn't revealed until Paul.

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      James Staten 17 hours ago

      I am not going to spend any time in trying to find a quote that I heard a few years back, but I believe it speaks volumes. There was an Ivy League President in the 1870-1880's who declared "if we don't return to the Epistles of the Apostle Paul, it will be onward to more and more apostasy". I believe most people who claim the name of Christ are clueless when it comes to differentiating between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God. There is a reason that Paul is called the Apostle of Grace. I used to know the exact figure of how many times Paul uses Grace in his Epistles as opposed to Grace being used in the Gospels and it is staggering. If Paul wrote the Book of Hebrews, he wrote 51% of the NT. Certainly the LORD didn't need a 13th Apostle, but He did need a man to reveal a New Program called the Body of Christ. Paul taught information downloaded to him from the Ascended LORD never revealed to Peter and the other Apostles. It's no wonder a Jew such as Peter steeped under the Law could reach the end of his life and write in his last Epistle that Brother Paul's writings are hard to be understood, but listen to Paul. I believe 99% of this debate would end if people realized that the LORD Jesus instituted Two Different Programs: Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God. One for an earthly people and one for a heavenly people, and things that differ are not the same. My Bible tells me at this very moment I am seated in the Heavenlies in Christ Jesus..Maybe it's just a Higher View than a Hyper View!!!!

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      James Staten a day ago

      Dr Don "Doc" Samdahl and I have become friends over the internet during the last decade or so. Here is one of his articles which I believe will clear up several of the issues we have all presented here today. I of course am prejudice, but I think it is a wonderful article. Enjoy.. https://doctrine.org/the-ch...

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      Going-2-Glory James Staten 20 hours ago edited

      I love brother Don! He was a peach to me when I first got saved! Very kind and gracious! 😍🤗💓
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      James Staten Going-2-Glory 9 hours ago

      Ultra Bobbi, Yes, he is a great guy and a brilliant scholar
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      Going-2-Glory James Staten 7 hours ago

      Haha 😂 okay friend, quit now! Haha!

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    5. Hanss23 March 2023 at 11:28

      James Staten referred to this great article: The Church (the Body of Christ)

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    6. Hanss23 March 2023 at 11:35

      Rob >NTEB 2 days ago

      Yep, for the church on earth, and the church in heaven…

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      James Staten Rob 2 days ago

      Rob, are you distinguishing between who some call the Jerusalem Church or the Little Flock which was born I believe on the Day of Pentecost?
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      Rob James Staten 2 days ago

      Hi brother,
      The church on earth started with the “little flock” and then was added to at Pentecost, and then will be added to again during the tribulation.
      The church “the body of Christ”, is an heavenly church that Jesus started with the apostle Paul, which will be removed to heaven once it has been filled to completion..

      The blood covers both…
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      James Staten Rob 2 days ago

      then Praise the LORD we are on the same page..more could be said but that explains more than most people want to know

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      NTEB Mod Bouchart 2 days ago

      Because it's THE BLOOD that paid for it all.

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    7. Hanss23 March 2023 at 11:38

      I'm glad there are still people on NTEB who dare to contradict cult leader Geoffrey Grider with biblical arguments.
      I'm also glad I don't have to do that anymore, because that site is not good for my mental and physical health!

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  8. Hanss2 July 2023 at 00:09

    Satan Is Obviously In Charge Of America As Pretend Woman Admiral Rachel Levine Calls For A ‘Summer Of Pride’ To Celebrate Sodom And Gomorrah

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  9. Hanss2 July 2023 at 00:11

    Pope Francis Stuns Catholics In Rome By Welcoming Artist Who Created The Original ‘Piss Christ’ Crucifix In Urine As Well As Porn And Slasher Filmmakers

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    His Majesty King Charles III And London’s Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan Activate A Doomsday ‘Climate Clock’ Set To Go Off In The Next 6 Years

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  11. Hanss2 July 2023 at 00:12

    Media Firestorm Ensues After It’s Suggested The French Constitution Be Changed As To Allow Emmanuel Macron To Have A Third Term As Ruler

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    ROCKET MAN: As French Cities Go Up In Flames Over Riots About Shooting Death Of Nahel Merzouk, Emmanuel Macron Attends An Elton John Concert

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  13. Hanss25 October 2023 at 03:02

    The Biden Administration Prepares Plans For The Mass Evacuation Of Hundreds Of Thousands Of Americans In Middle East As All-Out War Draws Closer

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      I don't promote NTEB anymore, because they don't preach the right gospel, but it's still a source of news.

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  14. Hanss25 October 2023 at 03:05

    The Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Endowments and Religious Affairs Calls For ‘Death To All Jews’ Until East Jerusalem Belongs To The Muslims

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    1. Hanss25 October 2023 at 03:07

      The conflict in Israel is NOT about land: it's God vs 'allah', Muhammad vs JESUS Christ!

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    2. Hanss25 October 2023 at 03:08

      And Islam was invented by the satanic Vatican = the disguised Luciferian Roman empire

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    3. Hanss25 October 2023 at 03:09

      That same ROMAN EMPIRE that CRUCIFIED our maker and Savior, the Lord JESUS Christ

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      That empire disguised itself as the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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  15. Hanss7 November 2023 at 09:09

    JOSE 17 hours ago

    As a true Christian, I cannot condone violence no matter from which side it is coming from but rebuke all evil like Jesus taught us through his 2 main commandments, I do not hate the jews, We have to stop generalizing when we talk about jews jews jews. ( cause just as there are true good jews there are evil ones too - specially the secular government that has to show allegiance to the NWO) It is sad because they were the ones that rejected Jesus as the true messiah and will be tried during Jacobs trouble. It is the true remnants of Jacob that we need to keep praying for.

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    blazemartyr JOSE 13 hours ago

    We can stand with Israel as a nation, without condoning their sins. There are two important passages in the Bible where God promises to bless those who support Israel and to curse those who do not. The first one is found in Genesis 12:1-3. In this passage God gives Abraham three promises. He says,

    Now the LORD said to Abram,
    “Go forth from your country,
    And from your relatives
    And from your father’s house,
    To the land which I will show you;
    And I will make you a great nation,
    And I will bless you,
    And make your name great;
    And so you shall be a blessing;
    And I will bless those who bless you,
    And the one who curses you I will curse.
    And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” Genesis 12:1-3 (NASB)

    This is the introduction to the Abrahamic Covenant.
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    blazemartyr JOSE 13 hours ago

    Very sensible on your behalf. As christians we have to stand for Christ and righteousness and not allow ourselves to be manipulated by media narratives. We have to love our neighbors and enemies. We have to remember that the jews will receive anti-christ and only a remnant of them will be saved. JEWS ARE ANTI-CHRIST just like the muslims they are at war with.
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      NTEB Mod JOSE 15 hours ago

      As a Christian, I stand for the Jews and the nation of Israel.
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      David Brooks NTEB 14 hours ago

      Let's take it a step further. In the Old testament the Lord told Joshua as he entered into those lands to wipe them all out not even leaving one left alive. I think Mr Jose might have a problem with that. But it's there and written down.
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      JOSE David Brooks 12 hours ago

      It is a shame to see how someone who pretends to preach the gospel falls for the ethnic cleansing that you are advocating for ( you just said it in your own words). A righteous man should follow Jesus our true messiah's 2 main commandments. You all have it confused and are not rightly dividing when you refer to the modern zionist state of israel as the same Israel of the Old testament.
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      David Brooks JOSE 2 hours ago

      Its a shame to see how someone who pretends to be a Christian falls for not reading and interpreting the entire word of God but rather attempting to be a "buffet" Christian.

      God is called a man of war. Exodus 15:3

      Jesus comes back exactly like that Revelation 19:11

      These are only TWO of countless other scriptures that you will have to deal with. So cry me a river somewhere else or go support Hamas. (The real Nazi killers).
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      crow JOSE 10 hours ago

      in that little piece of real estate over there there will be 144000 Jews 12000 from each tribe sealed of and by God.Its not over yet for them .Israel has a future.
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      JOSE JOSE 12 hours ago

      Does God Bless Those Who Bless Israel? ( Israel: yis-raw-ale Strong's concordance H3478)"one who prevails with God". "he will rule as God"

      One of the first promises in the Bible is given to Abram, whom God appointed to be a blessing to the whole earth. Not only did God tell this patriarch that he would receive a good land and have many children, but He also promised Abram, “I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse” (Gen. 12:1–3). That’s an incredible promise, isn’t it? God will favor those who favor Abram and set Himself against those who oppose Abram.
      Like me, you probably want God’s blessing and favor on your life. This verse gives us the secret to obtaining that blessing. We just need to bless Abram. Abram, later renamed Abraham, died some four thousand years ago. So, one might think that it is no longer possible to bless him. That is not the case. The promise to Abraham was passed down through his son Isaac to his grandson Jacob (Gen. 27:1–29). Jacob, of course, was renamed Israel, his sons being the founding fathers of the tribes of Israel. So, the promise of Abraham passed on to Israel as well (Num. 24:1–9).
      So, God is going to bless those who bless Abraham, which means He is going to bless those who bless Israel. And this promise was never withdrawn. It must come to pass, which means it is still in force today. But does the Israel of God exist today?
      From a biblical perspective, the Israel of God does still exist. But here is where things get perhaps a little tricky, for in today’s world there is a nation-state named Israel that is occupying much of the geography that the Old Testament refers to as the promised land. So, this must mean that if we want God’s blessing, we have to do good to the modern nation of Israel by supporting everything that nation does, right?

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    3. Hanss7 November 2023 at 09:24

      Hanss: Geoffrey Grider still believes in the wrong gospel, John 3:16, which is not THE Gospel that the Lord JESUS revealed to Paul, which is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      And he calls himself a Christian Zionist...
      Would Paul have called himself that way after he concluded that Israel as a NATION rejected their Messiah and the right Gospel?
      NO!
      So why does Geoffrey Grider call himself a Christian Zionist?

      Because he believes in the WRONG Gospel, because John 3:16 is for Israel and not for the gentiles, so in fact he believes in the Lord JESUS as if he's a Jew.

      I agree with Jose that we should bless the Israel of God, which will be the REMNANT of Israell that will be saved, and God only knows WHO they will be, because that will be revealed at the Second Coming of the Lord JESUS, seven years after the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture:

      Zechariah 13:8-9
      1599 Geneva Bible

      8 And in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off, and die: but the third shall be left therein.

      9 And I will bring that third part through the fire, and will fine them as the silver is fined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my Name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people, and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

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    4. Hanss7 November 2023 at 09:30

      The GOVERNMENT of the STATE of Israel has POISONED most of its citizens with the 'vaccines' and Netanyahu is a 33rd degree Freemason who cooperates with the Vatican = the diisguised Luciferian Roman empire.

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    5. Hanss7 November 2023 at 09:32

      They want to turn Gaza into a WEF SMART CITY!
      And this is not possible with Hamas ruling Gaza, so Hamas must be destroyed.

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