Critiquing Geoffrey Grider, Fake Minister of NTEB
You can't even make it past the opening of one of Geoffrey's NowTheEndBegins podcasts without stumbling over multiple half-truths, deception and outright falsehoods. Is this the type of "Bible Teacher" and "Minister" we need in the church? Or should Geoffrey Grider be held accountable by someone for his lies and false teachings?
ReplyDelete@Joshua Brunken what verses allegdly prove the Pre Trib Rapture theory
I'm curious ...
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Important pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture verses
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 King James Version
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
'the day of Christ' is the day on which the RAPTURE will happen and 'a falling away' is what will happen after the RAPTURE
1 Corinthians 15:50-52 King James Version
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Philippians 3:20-21 King James Version
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Titus 2:13 King James Version
Delete13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
1 Thessalonians 2:19 King James Version
19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thessalonians 5:9 King James Version
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
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Important pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture verses
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1599 Geneva Bible
13 I would not brethren, have you ignorant concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus is dead, and is risen, even so them which sleep in Jesus, will God bring with him.
15 For this say we unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which live, and are remaining in the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which sleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then shall we which live and remain, be caught up with them also in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore, comfort yourselves one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our assembling unto him,
2 That ye be not suddenly moved from your mind, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as it were from us, as though the day of Christ were at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.
4 Which is an adversary, and exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
'the day of Christ' is the day on which the RAPTURE will happen and 'departing' is the RAPTURE and 'a falling away' (KJV) is the effect of the rapture among left behind believers
1 Corinthians 15:50-52 1599 Geneva Bible
50 This say I, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I show you a secret thing, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall blow, and the dead shall be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Philippians 3:20-21 1599 Geneva Bible
20 But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ,
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working, whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Titus 2:13 1599 Geneva Bible
Delete13 Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glory of that mighty God, and of our Savior Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 2:19 1599 Geneva Bible
19 For what is our hope or joy, or crown of rejoicing? are not even you it in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thessalonians 5:9 1599 Geneva Bible
9 For God hath not appointed us unto wrath, but to obtain salvation by the means of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Joshua Brunken
Joshua Brunken
24 minutes ago
@Hans S what verses allegdly prove the Pre Trib Rapture theory
I'm curious ...
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Joshua Brunken
Joshua Brunken
10 minutes ago
@Hans S okay
But you agree that people being prejudiced towards someone who is black or white or Asian or Hispanic
Is wrong and that people with a lot of hate in their hearts don't go to Heaven
Joshua Brunken
Joshua Brunken
9 minutes ago
@Hans S is prejudice against ethnic groups wrong ?
We all are human
but I'm sure you also agree folks who hate a group of folks cause of skin color or ethnicity is wrong
And hateful folks like that aren't saved
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@Joshua Brunken The correct term is ethnicity. Yes, people who hate other ethnicities than their own are wrong, but we don't go the the lake of fire for hating other people but if we don't believe what the Lord JESUS Christ has DONE for us: the shedding of His blood for the forgiveness of our sins, His burial and resurrection three days after His death.
We only have to believe this and then we're saved FOREVER and SEALED with the Holy Spirit.
We should judge other people as if we are BLIND to their appearance.
Delete@Joshua Brunken Are you saved?
I watched your short 'Merry Christmas' video.
Christmas (Christ Mass) is a Roman Catholic invention and the Roman Catholic church is the disguise of the Luciferian Roman empire and the Lord JESUS Christ was born in September, so what is 'Christmas' all about?
It's about the celebration of the sun-god Helios, the true god of the Roman empire and it has nothing to do with the birth of JESUS Christ.
Shouldn't you repent (change your mind) on this?
Get saved:
We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
PS: salvation has nothing to do with faith in the rapture but everything with faith in what the Lord JESUS Christ has DONE for us, so it has NOTHING to do with what we have done, do or will do for JESUS, because it's impossible to earn our salvation.
Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.
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Joshua Brunken
12 hours ago
@Hans S but isnt hate in the heart a sin
And shouldn't people repent of xenophobia and predjudcial attitudes.
Or is love and humility foreign ideals according to Rapture Watchfolks types ?
Delete@Joshua Brunken JESUS never celebrated His own day of birth so why should we?
And birthday celebrations derive from Babylon and it's all about celebrating the egos of sinners.
You don't have to answer me if you're saved because we all have to answer to God-the Lord JESUS Christ.
I told you how to get saved and it has nothing to do with the rapture or with ethnicities.
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Joshua Brunken
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9 minutes ago (edited)
@Hans S according to many Pre Tribbers
I'm not saved cause Rapture timing is somehow a salvation issue.
I btw have different opinions about Christmas
I believe we should celebrate Jesus birth
But I also don't like some Pagan traditions associated with Christmas.
I don't use my YT channel much
But what do you want me to say to celebs
I.e. open letter videos ?
Or are you a so called Truther type
Who believes successful people can't ever repent or renege a deal with the devil.
I ask cause I'm not perfect and my opinions have changed on some things
But I think trying to discredit me to defend Steve Fletcher and Joseph Acquaviva types is troubling.
I.e. the Pre Trib Rapture camp has a bit of a problem with hate merchants who hate various ethnic groups
Thank God the ROMAN CATHOLIC 'Christmas' is over!
ReplyDelete*sigh* What do you do with people like that? Old fashioned West Virginia mountain preacher
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@Hans S you must believeth in the only begotten Son or your not saved. Catholics, Mormons, JW's,7th day Adventist and many other cults believe that Jesus died was buried and rose again. Im not saying you shouldn't believe that. What im saying is John 3:16 kjv is a verse that says whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨ the him is the only begotten Son. You must believeth in the only begotten Son. Who is the only begotten Son? Jesus Christ. You must believeth. Why does it say believeth? and not just believe? Because believeth is a continuous belief in someone. The moment you believeth in something you never stop believing in that. Thats the difference in believeth and believe. I can believe something today and stop believing in that something tomorrow. But if you believeth in something that is a continuing belief on what you are believing in, and whosoever believeth shall not perish, but have everlasting life. You must believeth who Jesus said he is, who he said he was, and what he is going to become. It really all come down to believeth.
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Job 15:22 He believeth not that he shall return out of darkness, and he is waited for of the sword.Job 39:24 He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?John 12:44 Jesus
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cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.Romans 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.Romans 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.1 Corinthians 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.1 Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:2 Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?1 Timothy 5:16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
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DeleteLive Video From The First SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Of 2023 Shows A Very Round Earth In Beautifully Crisp Detail During Its Short Flight
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey likes a good debate...and that's why he bans people....
DeleteHis arguments for staying 50/50 on the flat earth/globe earth controversy are just as stupid as his belief that both John 3:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 are the gospel.
Either one is true or the other is not true.
And if the globe earth is not true then it is a LIE.
And if John 3:16 is not the gospel then it is a LIE, even if that verse is good in itself and the earth is indeed ROUND but also flat, so not a spinning ball in space that revolves around the sun.
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ReplyDeleteA new attack by false teacher Geoffrey Grider on the Gospel of Grace...
ReplyDeleteWhat is the right Gospel of Grace?
Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.
The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.
The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.
Source: The Seven Churches of Revelation
Matthew McGee
Geoffrey Grider HATES the doctrine that says that our Grace Gospel is revealed to us BY The LORD JESUS through PAUL in Romans through Philemon.
Why?
Because he claims to have been saved according to John 3:16, which is a great PROMISE but NOT the Gospel of our salvation.
That's 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
And when the Lord JESUS spoke the words of John 3:16 He was NOT preaching to the gentiles but ONLY to Israel, so how can this be the Gospel of our salvation?
Geoffrey Grider still needs to get saved and he should stop telling LIES!
He also should stop asking people for MONEY!
Don't give a cent to a false teacher!
And he's always promoting the FREEMASON counterfeit of the true reformation Bible, the Geneva Bible, and that's the KJV.
Geoffrey Grider NEVER tells people the Papacy is the Antichrist by default, which all reformers knew.
He seems to be a former Catholic, but all reformers were TRUE former Catholics and they all proclaimed the Papacy is the Antichrist, hence it was also put in the footnotes of the Geneva Bible 1560.
Geoffrey Grider believes Macron or Zelensky or someone else will be the Antichrist.
This way of thinking derives from the JESUITS who concocted the doctrine called 'futurism' which teaches that in the end times a 'mysterious man' will arrive at the scene who will be the Antichrist so that people would be distracted from the KNOWLEDGE that the Papacy is the Antichrist by default.
I'm so gad I don't participate on his CULT anymore!
He also still believes he lives on a globe....
Be informed about the right Gospel: Bible Doctrine - doctrine.org
Does this criticism mean I believe Geoffrey Grider is wrong about everything?
DeleteOf course not.
He's right about the pre-trib-rapture doctrine but he's wrong when he asserts this doctrine is important for our salvation.
And I believe Geoffrey Grider sincerely believes in the Lord JESUS Christ.
But he doesn't understand why God-the Lord JESUS turned Paul into our ONLY apostle in this dispensation of Grace.
Like so many believers he's mixing Israel's Kingdom Gospel with our Gospel of Grace.
People who do this are not saved yet!
I said that MANY times on his site.
Of course Geoffrey wants to get rid of people like me and that's why he made this new attack on the right Gospel because there are still guests on his site who proclaim this Gospel.....and they probably don't give him MONEY.
Rob >NTEB 2 days ago edited
DeleteWow, are you serious?
Acts 8:36 “And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Did the eunuch say that he believed that Christ died for his sins, and that he was buried and that He rose again the third day? Is water baptism part of salvation?
Here is another thing:
1Cor.2:7 “ But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”
Satan would have known, but he did know about Is.53, which I would like to see how you reconcile that chapter with 1Cor.2:7…
Peace to you..
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NTEB Mod >Standingfirm 2 days ago
Amen. What a lot of people don't understand is that Paul was given the mysteries to reveal them, but those things did not start with Paul. The eunuch in Acts 8 got saved on Ephesians 2:8,9 before Paul wrote it! That was possible because the age of grace existed before Paul, it just wasn't revealed until Paul.
James Staten 17 hours ago
DeleteI am not going to spend any time in trying to find a quote that I heard a few years back, but I believe it speaks volumes. There was an Ivy League President in the 1870-1880's who declared "if we don't return to the Epistles of the Apostle Paul, it will be onward to more and more apostasy". I believe most people who claim the name of Christ are clueless when it comes to differentiating between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God. There is a reason that Paul is called the Apostle of Grace. I used to know the exact figure of how many times Paul uses Grace in his Epistles as opposed to Grace being used in the Gospels and it is staggering. If Paul wrote the Book of Hebrews, he wrote 51% of the NT. Certainly the LORD didn't need a 13th Apostle, but He did need a man to reveal a New Program called the Body of Christ. Paul taught information downloaded to him from the Ascended LORD never revealed to Peter and the other Apostles. It's no wonder a Jew such as Peter steeped under the Law could reach the end of his life and write in his last Epistle that Brother Paul's writings are hard to be understood, but listen to Paul. I believe 99% of this debate would end if people realized that the LORD Jesus instituted Two Different Programs: Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God. One for an earthly people and one for a heavenly people, and things that differ are not the same. My Bible tells me at this very moment I am seated in the Heavenlies in Christ Jesus..Maybe it's just a Higher View than a Hyper View!!!!
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Dr Don "Doc" Samdahl and I have become friends over the internet during the last decade or so. Here is one of his articles which I believe will clear up several of the issues we have all presented here today. I of course am prejudice, but I think it is a wonderful article. Enjoy.. https://doctrine.org/the-ch...
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Going-2-Glory James Staten 20 hours ago edited
I love brother Don! He was a peach to me when I first got saved! Very kind and gracious! ππ€π
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James Staten Going-2-Glory 9 hours ago
Ultra Bobbi, Yes, he is a great guy and a brilliant scholar
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Going-2-Glory James Staten 7 hours ago
Haha π okay friend, quit now! Haha!
James Staten referred to this great article: The Church (the Body of Christ)
DeleteRob >NTEB 2 days ago
DeleteYep, for the church on earth, and the church in heaven…
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James Staten Rob 2 days ago
Rob, are you distinguishing between who some call the Jerusalem Church or the Little Flock which was born I believe on the Day of Pentecost?
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Rob James Staten 2 days ago
Hi brother,
The church on earth started with the “little flock” and then was added to at Pentecost, and then will be added to again during the tribulation.
The church “the body of Christ”, is an heavenly church that Jesus started with the apostle Paul, which will be removed to heaven once it has been filled to completion..
The blood covers both…
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James Staten Rob 2 days ago
then Praise the LORD we are on the same page..more could be said but that explains more than most people want to know
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NTEB Mod Bouchart 2 days ago
Because it's THE BLOOD that paid for it all.
I'm glad there are still people on NTEB who dare to contradict cult leader Geoffrey Grider with biblical arguments.
DeleteI'm also glad I don't have to do that anymore, because that site is not good for my mental and physical health!
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ReplyDeleteAs a true Christian, I cannot condone violence no matter from which side it is coming from but rebuke all evil like Jesus taught us through his 2 main commandments, I do not hate the jews, We have to stop generalizing when we talk about jews jews jews. ( cause just as there are true good jews there are evil ones too - specially the secular government that has to show allegiance to the NWO) It is sad because they were the ones that rejected Jesus as the true messiah and will be tried during Jacobs trouble. It is the true remnants of Jacob that we need to keep praying for.
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blazemartyr JOSE 13 hours ago
We can stand with Israel as a nation, without condoning their sins. There are two important passages in the Bible where God promises to bless those who support Israel and to curse those who do not. The first one is found in Genesis 12:1-3. In this passage God gives Abraham three promises. He says,
Now the LORD said to Abram,
“Go forth from your country,
And from your relatives
And from your father’s house,
To the land which I will show you;
And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” Genesis 12:1-3 (NASB)
This is the introduction to the Abrahamic Covenant.
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blazemartyr JOSE 13 hours ago
Very sensible on your behalf. As christians we have to stand for Christ and righteousness and not allow ourselves to be manipulated by media narratives. We have to love our neighbors and enemies. We have to remember that the jews will receive anti-christ and only a remnant of them will be saved. JEWS ARE ANTI-CHRIST just like the muslims they are at war with.
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DeleteNTEB Mod JOSE 15 hours ago
As a Christian, I stand for the Jews and the nation of Israel.
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David Brooks NTEB 14 hours ago
Let's take it a step further. In the Old testament the Lord told Joshua as he entered into those lands to wipe them all out not even leaving one left alive. I think Mr Jose might have a problem with that. But it's there and written down.
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JOSE David Brooks 12 hours ago
It is a shame to see how someone who pretends to preach the gospel falls for the ethnic cleansing that you are advocating for ( you just said it in your own words). A righteous man should follow Jesus our true messiah's 2 main commandments. You all have it confused and are not rightly dividing when you refer to the modern zionist state of israel as the same Israel of the Old testament.
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David Brooks JOSE 2 hours ago
Its a shame to see how someone who pretends to be a Christian falls for not reading and interpreting the entire word of God but rather attempting to be a "buffet" Christian.
God is called a man of war. Exodus 15:3
Jesus comes back exactly like that Revelation 19:11
These are only TWO of countless other scriptures that you will have to deal with. So cry me a river somewhere else or go support Hamas. (The real Nazi killers).
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crow JOSE 10 hours ago
in that little piece of real estate over there there will be 144000 Jews 12000 from each tribe sealed of and by God.Its not over yet for them .Israel has a future.
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JOSE JOSE 12 hours ago
DeleteDoes God Bless Those Who Bless Israel? ( Israel: yis-raw-ale Strong's concordance H3478)"one who prevails with God". "he will rule as God"
One of the first promises in the Bible is given to Abram, whom God appointed to be a blessing to the whole earth. Not only did God tell this patriarch that he would receive a good land and have many children, but He also promised Abram, “I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse” (Gen. 12:1–3). That’s an incredible promise, isn’t it? God will favor those who favor Abram and set Himself against those who oppose Abram.
Like me, you probably want God’s blessing and favor on your life. This verse gives us the secret to obtaining that blessing. We just need to bless Abram. Abram, later renamed Abraham, died some four thousand years ago. So, one might think that it is no longer possible to bless him. That is not the case. The promise to Abraham was passed down through his son Isaac to his grandson Jacob (Gen. 27:1–29). Jacob, of course, was renamed Israel, his sons being the founding fathers of the tribes of Israel. So, the promise of Abraham passed on to Israel as well (Num. 24:1–9).
So, God is going to bless those who bless Abraham, which means He is going to bless those who bless Israel. And this promise was never withdrawn. It must come to pass, which means it is still in force today. But does the Israel of God exist today?
From a biblical perspective, the Israel of God does still exist. But here is where things get perhaps a little tricky, for in today’s world there is a nation-state named Israel that is occupying much of the geography that the Old Testament refers to as the promised land. So, this must mean that if we want God’s blessing, we have to do good to the modern nation of Israel by supporting everything that nation does, right?
Hanss: Geoffrey Grider still believes in the wrong gospel, John 3:16, which is not THE Gospel that the Lord JESUS revealed to Paul, which is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
DeleteAnd he calls himself a Christian Zionist...
Would Paul have called himself that way after he concluded that Israel as a NATION rejected their Messiah and the right Gospel?
NO!
So why does Geoffrey Grider call himself a Christian Zionist?
Because he believes in the WRONG Gospel, because John 3:16 is for Israel and not for the gentiles, so in fact he believes in the Lord JESUS as if he's a Jew.
I agree with Jose that we should bless the Israel of God, which will be the REMNANT of Israell that will be saved, and God only knows WHO they will be, because that will be revealed at the Second Coming of the Lord JESUS, seven years after the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture:
Zechariah 13:8-9
1599 Geneva Bible
8 And in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off, and die: but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring that third part through the fire, and will fine them as the silver is fined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my Name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people, and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
The GOVERNMENT of the STATE of Israel has POISONED most of its citizens with the 'vaccines' and Netanyahu is a 33rd degree Freemason who cooperates with the Vatican = the diisguised Luciferian Roman empire.
DeleteThey want to turn Gaza into a WEF SMART CITY!
DeleteAnd this is not possible with Hamas ruling Gaza, so Hamas must be destroyed.