Tuesday 1 February 2022

SAFE FOREVER! How to have ASSURANCE of SALVATION | Dr. Peter S. Ruckman

Aug 5, 2021
Trying something new with this one.
Still adding verses and visual aids to accompany the sermon and I've also remastered the audio.
The original version can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNE6K_YlNlE
"It is Well With My Soul" by Steve Sensenig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt5bXlptZWY
TLDW (too long didn't watch) - If you want assurance of salvation count on God's Righteousness on the blood of Jesus Christ to get you to heaven and nothing else.
Oh, and it helps if you believe the book so study the King James Bible and KNOW that you have THE PERFECT WORDS of GOD in your hand. It is NOT just the "Best Translation."
I hope you find this video a blessing.
 
 
 
 And this is one of Peter Ruckman's students:
 

Once Saved Always Saved

Once Saved Always Saved




Published on Oct 1, 2015
Sermon for Sunday, October 4, 2015. This is the fifty-third sermon preached in English on thecloudchurch.org. It was preached by Pastor/Missionary Evangelist Robert Breaker, who presents the BIBLE DOCTRINE of once saved, always saved.
 

So You Think You Can Lose It?

 
 
 
 
 
 

22 comments:



  1. Yes, I don't agree with everything he preaches, but I do agree with most of it.

    But he should correct his wrong view on certain aspects of his teachings.
    The same goes for Geoffrey, who's also a student of the late Peter Ruckman.
    Both Peter and Geoffrey believe for example that the Body of Christ is also the Bride: that's mixing the Kingdom Gospel with the Gospel of Grace.

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    GOING-2-GLORY Hans • 2 days ago

    Thus he holds an Acts 2 position on when the Body began.

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    1. @tim chess Why is God ONLY interested in the English language, and I'm Dutch?

      Do you know that the first Bible in English in what would become the US was NOT the KJV but the Geneva Bible?
      It was brought over by the 'Pilgrim Fathers'.
      Do you know the reason why the Pilgrim Fathers came to what would become the US?
      Because King James BANNED the Geneva Bible, he strongly disliked, as soon as 'his' Bible was published in 1611. It was even a felony to OWN a Geneva Bible!
      And what did the 'Pilgrim Fathers' do?
      They fled to my country, the Netherlands, that had become Protestant.
      They lived there several years until a portion of them decided they wanted to start somewhere new, where they could speak their own (English) language, and that's how they ended up in what later would become the USA.
      And they had their Geneva Bibles with them.
      The Geneva Bible is the true Bible of the Protestant reformation and the KJV is a state Bible and the Bible of the Anglican church.
      The KJV and the Geneva Bible are much ALIKE but here are clear differences.
      I give one IMPORTANT example:
      2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
      1599 Geneva Bible
      1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our assembling unto him,
      2 That ye be not suddenly moved from your mind, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as it were from us, as though the day of Christ were at hand.
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.

      DEPARTING is the RAPTURE on the DAY OF CHRIST (which is not the Day of the LORD)
      2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
      King James Version
      2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
      2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

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    2. The KJV changed 'departing' into 'a falling away'.

      There is no 'falling away' (from faith) of saved believers in the Lord JESUS who are SEALED members of the Body of Christ.
      It's not about 'a falling away' but about the RAPTURE.

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      Mark sorenson
      Mark sorenson
      1 month ago
      I love the KJV but to say it is the inspired Word of God is ludicrous. Even the men who put the KJV said so. We have 25,000 manuscripts of NT alone. We have the Word of God
      tim chess
      tim chess
      1 month ago (edited)
      What about when those manuscripts disagree. Then who decides which words should be included or excluded? Whoever decides is the judge. For example ACTS 8:37 was the verse God used to convince me that I should be baptized by immersion after I had become a believer (believers baptism). NIV, NASV, ASV, all exclude this verse from the text of their corrupted "bibles". So did the Devil add words to the Bible that convinced me to get baptized in water after I had been born again, or is the King James right and they are God's words that convinced me to follow the Lord in believers baptism? And if you are going to say there are other verses in the Bible that teach believers baptism, that may be true, but ACTS 8:37 was the verse used by God that convinced me to do it after they had showed me many other verses, but that was the verse that convinced me. Or 1 John 5:7 which is a very clear verse on the trinity is left out in many "bible" versions. Did God put it in or did the devil take it out? Jesus said do not add to his words or take away from his words.Proverbs 30:6 (KJV) Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
      Revelation 22:18-19 (KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
      And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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      Josh Lupien
      Josh Lupien
      1 month ago
      On what basis do you test revelation 18:22? It says any word, ANY. so which one has the right word that we can see change from??
      tim chess
      tim chess
      1 month ago
      @Josh Lupien God said he would preserve his words from this generation forever (Ps. 12:6,7). So where are they, we don't have the originals, and of the manuscripts we do have they sometimes disagree. We believe God has preserved his words in the kjv av1611 Bible. So when it subtracts from kjv has subtracted from God's words and when adds to kjv has added to God's words.
      Old Testament- Hebrew
      New Testament- Greek
      Complete Bible - English (purified seven times, preserved without proven error)

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    3. @snarknado "Galatians 2:7 says 'of'. The perversions say 'to'"
      Galatians 2:7

      King James Version
      7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter
      Galatians 2:7
      1599 Geneva Bible
      7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter
      Galatians 2:7
      21st Century King James Version
      7 but contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel to the Uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel to the Circumcision was unto Peter
      Hans S
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      @tim chess Paul didn't persecute the BODY of Christ, but JESUS HIMSELF, because these JEWISH believers in the Lord JESUS who Paul persecuted, belonged to JESUS and they didn't belong to the Body of Christ, which didn't exist yet.
      Hans S
      Hans S
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      @tim chess Acts 15:5-11
      And who taught Peter these things?
      Paul, on behalf of the Lord JESUS.
      Hans S
      Hans S
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      @snarknado Israel's Kingdom Gospel and our Grace Gospel
      (look it up)
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      @snarknado 1 Timothy 1:16
      1599 Geneva Bible
      16 Notwithstanding for this cause was I received to mercy, that Jesus Christ should first show on me all long suffering unto the ensample of them, which shall in time to come believe in him unto eternal life.

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      snarknado
      snarknado
      2 months ago (edited)
      Brother Ruckman was the greatest defender of the King James bible I know of.
      But he was seriously flawed in his understanding of scripture.
      He believed mid-Acts dispensationlism but didn't teach it because in his words 'it doesn't pay the bills'. As he said personally to E.C. Moore.
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago
      Is acts 7 mid acts? He believed that Paul persecuted the church of God and wasted it before he got converted in ACTS 9 and there were others in the body of Christ before Paul got saved also- Romans 16:7 (KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
      snarknado
      snarknado
      2 months ago
      @tim chess In Christ can be in different ways. Just like there are different churches. Different offices. Different rooms in one house. Paul was the first member of the body of Christ. Peter, James, John and others were in Christ before him as prophesied . Just as all things are in Christ both heaven and earth -- grace believers kept secret since the world began who are seated in heavenly places and will judge angels and believers who will inherit an earthly kingdom.
      Distinction matters. That's why must study to shew ourselves approved rightly dividing.
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    4. tim chess
      2 months ago
      @snarknado Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:32 (KJV) Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
      So there are 3 groups that divides the world, Jews, Gentiles, and THE ( not "A" but "THE") church of God. Paul said he persecuted it and wasted it, obviously before his conversion in ACTS 9. He was preaching after he was saved THE SAME faith he destroyed (persecuted, wasted, compelled to blaspheme) before he was saved.
      Galatians 1:23 (KJV) But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
      And THE (not "A") church of God is clearly the body of Christ according to Paul himself.
      Ephesians 1:22-23 (KJV) And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
      Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
      This is the church Paul was persecuting.
      Acts 20:28 (KJV) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Not a local church with unsaved members, but the body of Christ, the church of God.
      Paul persecuted it.
      Galatians 1:13 (KJV) For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
      1 Corinthians 15:9 (KJV) For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.Galatians 1:13 (KJV) For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
      snarknado
      snarknado
      2 months ago (edited)
      @tim chess The church of God is composed of all churches. It depends on context and sound doctrine. The church of God is composed of those in all dispensations. Acts 7:38 speaks of the church in the wilderness.
      Just as grace believers saved by Paul's preaching of grace alone, the little flock saved by Peter's gospel of works and those who believed and obeyed God in the Old testament were separate churches so is the kingdom of God which is composed of heaven and earth.
      We are seated in heavenly places and the little flock are promised an earthly kingdom.
      Just as the gospel of God is that which was preached by Paul and that preached by Peter and the apostles. Different gospels to different audiences. That's only one distiction that separates the King James bible from all others. Galatians 2:7 says 'of'. The perversions say 'to'.
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago (edited)
      @snarknado When Paul was persecuting the believers and the church of God he was persecuting Jesus because they were in his body, they were in Christ before Paul.

      Acts 9:4-5 (KJV) And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
      And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
      Acts 22:7-8 (KJV) And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
      And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
      Acts 26:14-15 (KJV) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
      And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
      And once again after being converted he preached the same faith he once destroyed, not a different faith.
      Galatians 1:22-23 (KJV) And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
      But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
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    5. snarknado
      2 months ago
      @tim chess And once again. In Christ means all things with distinction. All things are of God. With dfferent offices, functions and destinations.
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago
      @snarknado And from your earlier remarks of Peter preaching a gospel of works,( sort of a contradiction since gospel means good news, and to try and save myself by good works is not good news, because I would fail! In ACTS 15 at the council in Jerusalem when those law keepers were commanding people needed to keep the law and be circumcised to be saved Peter didn't agree with them, he said men were saved by grace, not works.
      Acts 15:5-11 (KJV) But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
      And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
      And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
      And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
      And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
      Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
      But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago (edited)
      @snarknado the gospel of the circumcision (Peter) and the gospel of the uncircumcised (Paul) was not two different gospels, but the same gospel sent by Peter primarily to the Jews(although he was used by God to open the door of faith unto the Gentiles( Cornelius-Acts 10)and preached to other Gentiles also and the same gospel sent by Paul primarily to the Gentiles although he also preached to Jews.
      Peter may not have had as clear a Revelation of the gospel of grace as Paul did but in ACTS 15 was definitely preaching in agreement with the gospel of grace preached by Paul.
      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago (edited)
      Remember ACTS is a transition book or a bridge and not solid ground to determine new Testament doctrine. Things were changing and being revealed and understood by the apostles and Christians slowly at first which is why Peter refused to eat the unclean animals he saw let down in the sheet in the dream or vision he had just before he went to tell Cornelius words how to be saved(ACTS 10). GOD TOLD HIM TO EAT AND NOT TO CALL THEM COMMON OR UNCLEAN. THINGS WERE BEING REVEALED AS TO THE CHANGES UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT WHICH STARTED WITH THE DEATH OF THE TESTATOR JESUS

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    6. CHRIST WHEN HE DIED ON THE CROSS WHICH IS WHY THE VAIL OF THE TEMPLE WAS RENT IN TWAIN FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THE OT PRIESTHOOD AND LAW WERE DONE AWAY WITH WHEN CHRIST DIED ALTHOUGH IT TOOK TIME AND ULTIMATELY IN PAULS EPISTLES UNTIL THINGS WERE FULLY REVEALED AND UNDERSTOOD. Solid doctrine for us is in the Pauline epistles but it doesn't mean as things were changing in the book of acts that there was a different church(two churches, two bodies of Christ) When the believers were added unto the Lord it is because they we being placed into the body of Christ even though the doctrine to understand this was not revealed completely until God revealed it in Paul's epistles. THEY WERE NOT PREACHING THE LAW OF MOSES IN ACTS 2,3,4. THEY WERE PREACHING THE RESURRECTION OF THE Lord Jesus!, not works and if any works like water baptism or laying on of hands or tongues was mixed in it is because it was carried over from John's baptism ministry and laying on of hands and tongues were a sign to unbelieving Jews since the Jews require a sign. They didn't have a full understanding, but we're still preaching Jesus, and the resurrection which was not the message of the OT because the testator had not died yet nor resurrected yet.
      Acts 5:41-42 (KJV) And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
      And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
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      snarknado
      snarknado
      2 months ago
      @tim chess Yep. And the apostles and little flock along with those saved in the trib after the rapture will inherit the kingdom of heaven on earth while will go up to judge the angels and be seated with Christ in heavenly places.
      Two distinct roles for those saved by grace and those saved by the kingdom gospel.
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago (edited)
      @snarknado was John the Baptist preaching the kingdom gospel when he said
      John 1:17 (KJV) For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
      And when he said
      John 1:29 (KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. I would say both of those teach we are save by grace through the sacrifice or atonement of Jesus Christ (The Lamb of

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    7. God that taketh away the sin of the world). Not saying it was clear back then but grace and the blood sacrifice of Christ our passover Lamb to take away our sins is pretty good gospel of grace stuff?
      snarknado
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      2 months ago
      @tim chess Jesus in his eartly ministry required his followers to keep commandments and various other works.
      Paul said no works. Grace alone. Works before & after the dispensation of grace.
      It's obvious to those who study & rightly divide.
      Are you afraid to break away from your denominational traditions & practices?
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      2 months ago (edited)
      @snarknado no not afraid but don't believe non water baptism Hyperdispensationalism that doesn't believe in confessing sins as a believer according to 1 John 1:9. I may not have my doctrine finely polished and nailed down as much as I should or would like to but I like the dispensational kjv Baptist church I'm at now and don't even have to agree 100% with everything there but as long as we have agreement on main things like AV1611 KJV are the preserved scriptures and final authority and how we are saved right now in this dispensation we live in now and the music is not worldly but gives glory to God and there is a genuine effort to Evangelize the lost I think I am fairly content where I am. And if I didn't have covid now and wasn't in isolation with time to burn I normally would not have given time for so much commenting back and forth. I think doc believed the spiritual body of Christ or the Church which is his body was being alive and breathing in ACTS 2 but that it wasn't revealed yet as complete doctrine. He would use illustration of what's in my pocket, we couldn't know unless he pulled it out of his pocket and showed us, just because it was not revealed to us doesn't mean it was not there in his pocket the whole time- body there in ACTS 2 but not revealed til later
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      snarknado
      2 months ago
      @tim chess Ok. But give it an open mind please. I am KJV only too. Hope you get over the coof and get well. Grace & peace, brother.
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      Anthony Rendon
      Anthony Rendon
      1 month ago
      @snarknado Book chapter and verse please where it tells us Paul was the first of the body of Christ
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      @Anthony Rendon Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

      1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
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      Anthony Rendon
      Anthony Rendon
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      @snarknado thank you brother
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      snarknado
      snarknado
      1 month ago
      @Anthony Rendon šŸ‘

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    8. @tim chess I already answered you, but YouTube deleted my comment
      , because it contained a link.
      John the Baptist only preached to Israel.
      Check out what I believe:
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and our Grace Gospel
      (look it up)
      Hans S
      Hans S
      12 hours ago
      @snarknado I believe the Body of Christ started by the Lord JESUS through Paul.
      I follow the Lord JESUS through Paul, or I follow Paul on behalf of the Lord JESUS.
      tim chess
      tim chess
      12 hours ago
      @Hans S ok
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      tim chess
      tim chess
      12 hours ago
      Was he preaching what he said in John 3:36 or am I interpreting it wrong that that was John the Baptist, take a close look at it, I know the other things said earlier were J the B. If it was sure sounds like a believe in Jesus faith message even if it was to Israel or the Jews?
      Hans S
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      12 hours ago
      @tim chess John the Baptist preached to Israel only.
      Israel's assignment is earthly and the assignment of the Body of Christ is Heavenly (Citizens of Heaven).
      In the end all worshipers of the Lord JESUS will come together, after the Millennium and the Final Judgment, on the (brand) New Earth under the (brand) New Heaven in the New Jerusalem.
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      10 hours ago (edited)
      @tim chess Edit: John 3:36 is John the Baptist speaking and only to Israel.
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      9 hours ago (edited)
      @Hans S So then Jesus told them that believing on him was enough to save them.
      Not faith and works but faith alone
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      @Hans S I believe the same. Amen, brother.
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      5 hours ago
      @tim chess John preached the kingdom of heaven. A physical earthly kingdom prophesied to the physical seed of Abraham. John's baptism was with water sprinkled in the same manner as it was sprinkled on the priests of the temple. It was for the remission of sins. Not for eternal salvation.
      Paul preached one faith, one Lord and one baptism. Spiritual. For the body of Christ, Jew and gentile.
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      Hans S
      Hans S
      3 hours ago
      @tim chess There's a clear distinction between the Kingdom of Heaven for Israel and the Kingdom of God for the Body of Christ.
      Watch this video on YouTube: The Kingdom of God vs The Kingdom of Heaven
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      @tim chess The point is that John the Baptist was NOT addressing the gentiles.
      The Body of Christ started after Israel as a nation had rejected JESUS as their Messiah.
      This happened when Stephen was stoned, and Saul-Paul was a witness and he was in agreement with the stoning.
      Then the Lord JESUS told Saul that he persecuted Him, when he was on his way to Damascus, to persecute more fellow Jews who had become believers in Messiah JESUS, and after that Paul got saved and the Lord JESUS taught him personally a totally NEW approach which is the Gospel of Grace, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and which is THE Gospel for both Jews and gentiles.
      The Kingdom Gospel was only for the Jews and if gentiles also believed it (which happened) they had to listen to the 12 apostles for the Jews.
      Paul was NOT the '13th' apostle, but a totally new apostle for the GENTILES, though he was also a Jew.
      If Jews want(ed) to get saved according to his Gospel (he actually called it 'his Gospel') they got and get saved in the SAME WAY as the non-Jews, the gentiles, and become members of the Body of Christ, with Paul as their apostle on behalf of the Lord JESUS Christ.
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      1 hour ago (edited)
      @Hans S according to Esphesians the one body (Church) began when Jesus died on the cross, and so did The new testament become effective when Christ died on the cross (The death of the testator) and after his resurrection Christ said that repentance and remission of sins should be preached among all nations beginning at Jerusalem.
      That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

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    10. And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
      And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

      And Paul said that his gospel,the gospel of Christ, was for Jews and gentiles in Romans chapter 1

      For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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      @tim chess Please quote from the Bible with chapters and numbers.
      You quoted from Ephesians 2:12-16,
      Hebrews 9:15-16, Luke 24:46-49 and Romans 1:16

      I'm Dutch and I NEVER use the word 'church' because it's not in my Dutch Protestant Bible in Dutch (kerk) but ONLY in the Dutch CATHOLIC bible.

      William Tyndale got rid of that word in his translation of the New Testament and he replaced it with 'congregation', and this made the Catholic church furious, which is one of the reasons why this satanic church murdered him

      Unfortunately the Geneva Bible 1560 and later editions used that word again, though it was heavily based on the work of William Tyndale.
      And the KJV used that word also.

      Nowadays there's only ONE Gospel for Jews and gentiles alike and that's 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

      Anyone who is saved by this Gospel is sealed with the Holy Spirit and a member of the world wide Body of Christ.

      The Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel will come into effect again after the rapture.

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      21 hours ago
      @Hans S Yep. I've been Mid-Acts for about 7 years now.
      tim chess
      tim chess
      21 hours ago
      @Hans S who taught John the Baptist who died before Paul was converted that Jesus was the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world? Sounds like Pauline doctrine to me? Our should I also say John the Baptist ine doctrine also.
      Paul
      Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
      John the Baptist
      The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.
      tim chess
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      21 hours ago (edited)
      And as far as I can tell from the context John3:36 was spoken by John the Baptist and recorded by the Holy Spirit as scripture in the Gospel of John the beloved disciple
      Read this in context and see if verse 3:36 is John the Baptist?
      Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. He must increase, but I must decrease. He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
      Is John 3:36 the gospel of grace through faith or by faith and works? Sounds like faith alone without works. I understand he doesn’t specifically mention Christ dying for our sins here but he did earlier when he called him the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world in John 1:29

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    12. @Chris_KJB1611 Most people on earth do not (want to) speak English!


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      Chris_KJB1611
      13 hours ago
      ​ @Hans S simple, because God knows in the future English will be the universal language!

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    1. Is this addressed to PAGANS (non-Jews)?
      Isaiah 51:1-8
      1599 Geneva Bible

      1 Hear me ye that follow after righteousness, and ye that seek the Lord: look unto the rock, whence you are hewn, and to the hole of the pit, whence ye are dug.
      2 Consider Abraham your father, and Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him and increased him.
      3 Surely the Lord shall comfort Zion: he shall comfort all her desolations, and he shall make her desert like Eden, and her wilderness like the garden of the Lord: joy and gladness shall be found therein: praise, and the voice of singing.
      4 Hearken ye unto me my people, and give ear unto me, O my people: for a Law shall proceed from me, and I will bring forth my judgment for the light of the people.
      5 My righteousness is near: my salvation goeth forth, and mine arm shall judge the people: the isles shall wait for me, and shall trust unto mine arm.
      6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein, shall perish in like manner: but my salvation shall be forever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
      7 Hearken unto me ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my Law. Fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their rebukes.
      8 For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wood: but my righteousness shall be forever, and my salvation from generation to generation.

      No.
      Isaiah wasn't talking to pagans (gentiles) but to his own people.
      Who is the ONLY one who proclaimed the right Gospel on behalf of the Lord JESUS which also makes the receiver once saved, always saved?
      PAUL!
      Paul was the ONLY apostle of the GENTILES! All the other apostles were apostles of the 'circumcision' = the Jews.
      Study this article:
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel

      We all need to be saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve.
      So be SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready.
      Read your Bible every day and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.

      Sealed with the Holy Spirit means ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED!

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    2. @Renee Roland The Untwisted Sister Explain that to JESUS because He changed everything when He was rejected by His own people and ultimately after they stoned Stephen to death because then they not only rejected the Father (the one who spoke from heaven when JESUS was baptized) and the Son (when they crucified JESUS via the Romans) but also the Holy Spirit, because Stephen saw JESUS STANDING at the right hand of the Father through the Holy Spirit.
      So this was a TOTAL REJECTION of the Godhead and who agreed with this when that happened?
      Saul!
      Saul was a Jew and a Pharisee who wasn't born in Israel and he came from the land of the gentiles unlike the 12 apostles for Israel and this Saul became our apostle Paul while he was an ENEMY of God-the Lord JESUS.
      'Saul, Saul why are you persecuting me?' JESUS said to him when Saul was on his way to Damascus to persecute more Jewish (not Pagan!) believers in JESUS.
      Why did JESUS do that?
      To humiliate the Jews through a man who used to be on their side but who had become the ONLY Jew who could really understand the gentiles through what the Lord JESUS would reveal to him and ONLY to Paul JESUS revealed THE Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and much more like the rapture.
      JESUS had turned everything around because from then on every Jew could only be saved by the same Gospel that JESUS revealed to Paul which was for BOTH Jews and gentiles, again, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      Yes, Abram (later Abraham) was a gentile when he was called by God and he became the spiritual father of Jews and gentiles, but NEVER was the super simple Gospel of Grace preached before Paul, because (again) JESUS revealed it ONLY to Paul and to nobody else.
      Did anyone of the 12 apostles preach this Gospel before Paul?
      No!
      We're not saved by becoming 'spiritual Jews' according to the Kingdom Gospel for Israel but by something (back then) completely NEW: through faith alone in that JESUS shed His blood and died for the forgiveness of our sins, that He was buried and rose from the dead three days later, according to the scriptures.
      Only later after Peter met Paul he agreed with Paul that this is the only Gospel that saves in this dispensation or era of Grace.
      After the rapture the Kingdom Gospel for Israel will come into effect again and it MUST happen because else the prophecies can't be fulfilled and in this era of Grace NO prophecies are fulfilled.
      That's why Matthew 24 and the entire book of Revelation is not about the Body of Christ but about Israel and the world during the coming Great Tribulation or the Time of Jacob's Trouble.

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      Renee Roland The Untwisted Sister
      1 hour ago
      We have all the promises of God in Christ bc JESUS IS THE SEED OF ABRAHAM- AND WE ARE IN HIM. SO " ALL THR PTOMISES OF GOD ARE YAY AND AMEN IN HIM" so i dissgree very strongky with dividing TODAY these promises . Bible says once jedys rose that WE ( gentiles) WERE or (Used to be) strangers from the covenants and promises given to Israel BUT NOW we have been " brought nigh by the blood of Christ " so that God may RECONCILE BOTH ( jew/ gentile or Israel and all other nations) TOGETHER IN ONE ( JESUS) so there is no separation. We have all the promises given to israel bc we did NOT replace them but JOINED true believing Israel! Which is NOT based on genealogy or blood line but by faith! THEY EHICH ARE OF THE FAITH ARE THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM. i see you often say these things are not to us or dont belong to us bc its to israel but ppl MISS that its all ours! There is One sheeogold one body one Shepard.

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    3. @Renee Roland The Untwisted Sister "There is One sheeogold one body one Shepard" (There is One sheepfold one body one Shepard).
      We are NOT SHEEP and JESUS is NOT our Shepard!
      That's terminology for the Jews and not for gentiles and we also don't become 'born again' but a NEW CREATURE when we get saved, because gentiles were NEVER born as people of God so that's why JESUS told His OWN people they needed to become born AGAIN and in a spiritual way, of course.
      We also become a new creature in a spiritual way when we get saved, but Paul never called it 'born again' because he was the only apostle of the gentiles.
      The STATE of Israel in the Middle East is NOT (yet) the Israel of God because it's a secular state and the Lord JESUS will change that at His Second Coming:
      Zechariah 13:8-9
      1599 Geneva Bible

      8 And in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off, and die: but the third shall be left therein.
      9 And I will bring that third part through the fire, and will fine them as the silver is fined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my Name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people, and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

      Interesting fact: at the beginning of the fake pandemic ONE THIRD of the Israeli citizens of Israel said they would refuse the jab!
      The jabs are the precursor to the implementation of the Mark of the Beast AFTER the rapture.

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